Tubban caught online a day prior to the MQ ban

[spok]

Hell maybe I have it all wrong and the DA officers along with a few of their players get together frequently to conspire and use hax.

It was never mentioned in voice chat, never posted on a forum (I should know, I searched the entire guild forum DB) or anything of that sort.

I logged in, we hit targets, switched people watching targets (including myself) and did our thing. Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

[spok]

Originally Posted by Aba to the cab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I laid it out before, if you want to settle this drama there needs to be a 1v1 with the leadership of DA and IB they need to have a representative fight for their right to exist, the loser should just pack up shop, delete their toon and start over. Which ever side loses the leadership forfeits their right to that character and forfeits their guild leadership role, the players in that respective guild are free to pursue other interests and will only lack a tag at this point.

Let's be men about this

All to the thunderdome

^ THIS

[spok]

Originally Posted by spok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

That meaning I may have been oblivious to them as well. Not everyone knows the inner workings unless evidence is produced. Til then, it is all circumstantial.

I think these players act and continue to act independently. Maybe that makes me naive.

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by spok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hell maybe I have it all wrong and the DA officers along with a few of their players get together frequently to conspire and use hax.

It was never mentioned in voice chat, never posted on a forum (I should know, I searched the entire guild forum DB) or anything of that sort.

I logged in, we hit targets, switched people watching targets (including myself) and did our thing. Same went for IB although I never watched a target for them while I was a recruit.

You're missing the point.

No one cares if you all sit around on MSN passing pre-compiles of MQ2, no one cares if you plot major exploits to gun for CT.

Everyone cares about your accountability, DA has never owed up to anything, they simply purged the member and swept the issue under the rug. They never went to Div/IB/TMO etc. and said "Sorry members we're cheating, have a free Nagafen" and bow out for a week by choice. No. The GM's had to pressure you into doing that.

I think the best solution for DA's PR department would be a public disclosure and a proven plan to restructure their leadership and recruitment process, and put more transparency on the issue. DA just needs to have a seat Chris Hansen style and comb out the roster, but they're unwilling to do as such which is causing the most animosity from your rivals.

The sheer fact:

You're taking no steps into rectifying the situation, you're only trolling, an flinging allegations. Start with a solution and work backwards and be professional for a change instead of trying to play guild-warfare all the time.

Diplomacy bro, use it.

[spok]

Fair abacab, fair. Maybe they will consider that or have taken action on that. Would like to see what they do. They are still under suspension so we'll see how they roll out of the gate this next week.

[Cyrano]

The best part of this is that the two people attacking and defending DA the most aren't in DA or any of their rival guilds.

[Kruel]

yea think IB and DA are pretty done with it. At least the quality players.

[Aba to the cab]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best part of this is that the two people attacking and defending DA the most aren't in DA or any of their rival guilds.

The best part of your response, is DA/IB drama overflows these forums and you pretend like no one else if affected.

Silly Cyrano

[Rangerboy]

Can we just come to conclusion and say they are cheaters and end these threads about DA?

[spok]

Originally Posted by Rangerboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we just come to conclusion and say there are going to be cheaters in EQ cheaters and end these threads about DA?

Fixd.