An open letter from <Forsaken> - Page 11

Faited · #**101** 06-12-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forsaken was formed for two main reasons: to finally remove the stigma of the tag we formerly held and at the same time keep the community of players together that I have considered family for years.

Our recent decision to be in class R was for several reasons, and none of which were to blatantly circumvent any rules. There was also no intent to target any guild and it was certainly not done with any intent to disrespect the server rules. It was simply done to get the players that had just gone through a huge transition some time to settle in and get accustomed to our whole new structure, dkp system, forums and leaders.

Sincerely,
Detoxx

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

Detoxx · #**102** 06-12-2015, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

To address your concern with respect, we have a lot of apps, and being that not everyone came to the new guild, we needed to assess our numbers and train some newer people. As someone stated before, the amount of work and dedication to do this is not anywhere near worth sitting in class R to maybe get a few mobs a month.

Lazie · #**103** 06-12-2015, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in paragraph 1 you say you were keeping the same community of players together & in paragraph 2 you say you joined Class R to have them "practice"? WTF is there to practice if the players who've been doing Class C forever are all moving to the new guild? The reek of bs is strong in this post.

Leadership structure, the way the guild takes commands and the way they are delivered are really big things in raiding. When you have new people in different roles you really have no idea how that will work overall until you apply it. Had we went into VP and due to poor communication that hadn't been worked out a train happened. We would have been suspended as well. I'd rather the guild be entirely on the same page and running smoothly before throwing all those people to the fire.

I respect your opinion though and glad you shared it. We agree some folks will see this differently than we intend. That was discussed beforehand as well. I talked with officers in some guilds via PMs beforehand to dissuade any misunderstandings. Some you can't dissuade no matter how hard you try.

slydexx · #**104** 06-12-2015, 08:04 PM

Why are you explaining anything to idiots on these forums?
No one gives a shit about the truth so don't waste your time.

Faited · #**105** 06-12-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it more offensive for Forsaken to compete in Class-R with obvious intentions to quickly progress to Class-C than two obvious Class-C capable guilds that remain in Class-R and cycle lockout timers between themselves?

Chest, when <Foreceful Entry> formed, Shinko was the guild leader and a former officer of BDA. The membership was also 90%+ BDA members. Did you consider FE as BDA with a different name?

This is also true. But we all know BDA & Taken have had agreements not to impede on each others' kills/targets for a while & are scummy as crap for it, especially since BDA likes to try & convince everyone that they didnt break the rotation, etc. That's bs also. No self-respecting netizen of p99 has any respect for either of those 2 bs entities. But we're talking about TMO/Forsaken here, not the other 2 scumbag guilds.

Samoht · #**106** 06-12-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by slydexx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are you explaining anything to idiots on these forums?
No one gives a shit about the truth so don't waste your time.

It's all lipstick on a pig.

Aadill · #**107** 06-12-2015, 08:28 PM

But pigs make bacon?

Faited · #**108** 06-12-2015, 08:45 PM

In an effort to make this a bit more positive (this aint RnF!), I do like Swage so I wish y'all the best of luck in distancing yourselves from that negative stigma. Now go live up to your post!

JayN · #**109** 06-12-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Faited [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In an effort to make this a bit more positive (this aint RnF!), I do like Swage so I wish y'all the best of luck in distancing yourselves from that negative stigma. Now go live up to your post!

rofl /thread

fohkure · #**110** 06-12-2015, 10:02 PM

Whatever this thread was supposed to accomplish, it hasn't. I'd suggest deleting it, it's only making things worse for you Detoxx. Next time, i'd tell your guild to let you do all the talking.

You have a pretty big uphill battle ahead of you if you actually want to do what you say. I doubt it's true, but more power to you if it is. Good luck amigo.

Chris