An open letter from <Forsaken> - Page 9

Lazie · #81 06-12-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With as many times as TMO members have threatened to form up a new guild solely to shit on class R guilds, are you REALLY surprised people don't trust you?

Listen, I'm not going to sit here and debate what people should and shouldn't say in troll posts or threads in the RNF section of this website. People have all used that forum in the past at some point to troll. I don't remember Detoxx making those threats. Nor do I recall Swage or other current officers of Forsaken making those threats.

I for one told the officers we should go directly Class C when Class R was being discussed. They gave me the valid reasons why the decision was made and it was discussed our plan with the authorities of P99. As many of you have pointed out in different forums. Class R mobs are on a rotation. There is no way a Class C member base could enter and troll Class R and "Stomp on the Class R guilds". They rotate. Forsaken wouldn't spend their time trying to troll you guys when all you have to do is take the mobs off they are not locked out on and wait your turn as usual.

Frieza_Prexus · #82 06-12-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a difference between a new DKP system and giving a signing bonus to members who joined me from TMO. The DKP system is entirely new.

Well, yes. I'm not arguing anything to the contrary. I just had it wrong because I didn't see the signing bonus.

reborn649 · #83 06-12-2015, 06:05 PM

If a dkp system has a sign on bonus for anyone who joins, alumni or new to level the playing field and it is a dkp bidding system versus a pure loot council. How is that not new?

If 80% of your leadership is brand new and the 20% previously were in a leadership role in an old guild but doing a totally new role as leaders in a new guild, how is this not new?

Perhaps I am missing something here, but it seems pretty black and white to me.

On a side note to Joyelle. You have every right to believe that and in a large way I completely understand the stigma TMO carried with it and their idle threats to go to R. You need to meet us halfway and realize that the majority of those people who carried the stigma are either not with us or have chosen to bite their tongues and just enjoy playing the game. Within every guild there is going to be people who stir up trouble and then the large sum of people (aka server) thinks it is the guild as a whole. After playing p99 for many years now, I find this to literally never be the case. Forsaken is mainly comprised of the people who are sick of the toxic environment/reputation and wanted to get away from it as far as possible, but during the course of that a rule was apparently broken. If it stands, its fine and we will take it on the chin and move on. If it clears, we will still move onto C as originally planned and hold our heads up high. Were not here to stir pots, were here to have fun with people that give a damn about the other people they play the game with.

bullproofmonk · #84 06-12-2015, 06:06 PM

Serve out your time, and come back strong.

A setback for sure, but at least it's summer!

Kaezyr D`Shiv · #85 06-12-2015, 06:14 PM

It looks like the leaked Forsaken guild forum posts just completely corroborate everything that OP said above.

It really is too bad that Forsaken is being vilified for trying to branch out and create a new environment free of the prior toxicity that contributed to and eventually left a legendary entity extremely damaged and licking its wounds.

Given that the raid rule 17 should have been more considered, and probably brought up to a GM regarding Forsaken's intentions.

It is my belief that the class system should mean nothing come velious. A lot has changed since it's inception.

Good luck this Winter everyone!

Lazie · #86 06-12-2015, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bullproofmonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serve out your time, and come back strong.

A setback for sure, but at least it's summer!

Which I am all for as well. We have been using the past few days to raid a lot of different trivial things together and teach. It's been fun for me to have the camaraderie back that had fallen off.

I think we all just want to clarify that Velious is under 2 months away. This was not done for nefarious reasons as some trolls would have you guys believe. If you have a problem with someone in our guild then talk to our officers. We are more than open and willing to discuss concerns and work out problems.