An open letter from <Forsaken>

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two words: trak tooth.

Well, they are sold. I've never been in a guild, ever, and I have a completed VP key. I am sure I'm not alone.

But, yeah, logistically buying 30+ of them isn't realistic. I'm guessing anyways, not sure how many are banked. Kinda being a pedant, sorry.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, they are sold. I've never been in a guild, ever, and I have a completed VP key. I am sure I'm not alone.

But, yeah, logistically buying 30+ of them isn't realistic. I'm guessing anyways, not sure how many are banked. Kinda being a pedant, sorry.

Forcing class R guilds to buy trak teeth from class C guilds would only make the chasm separating the classes worse.

[skipdog]

It boggles my mind how so many can bash Forsaken here.

Yep, a chunk of TMO splintered away and formed their own guild. BETTER BAN THEM FOR FUCKING WITH CLASS R!!

I just don't get it. This suspension was unwarranted. I still can't understand it. If the staff is going to do this kind of thing, they need to more clearly define what is and isn't allowed before jumping to suspensions. Sirken even detailed specific things that would warrant a 'new guild' and Forsaken did pretty much all of those things.

[cs616]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's an established way to move from class C to class R, though. Reforming under a new guild tag and raiding with more than 93% of the same members from the old guild (Why wasn't slydexx tagged before?) is not a part of it.

I thought we covered this in the RnF post, but here you are just hours later still spouting the same inaccurate statements. 93% of the same people, and comprised of 93% former TMO members are distinctly different statements. Using words accurately is important if you dont want to sound like a idiot. Continuing to use words inaccurately after being corrected is just willful ignorance or maliciously misleading.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't get it. This suspension was unwarranted. I still can't understand it. If the staff is going to do this kind of thing, they need to more clearly define what is and isn't allowed before jumping to suspensions. Sirken even detailed specific things that would warrant a 'new guild' and Forsaken did pretty much all of those things.

Rogean just defined it. Surprisingly, this particular situation hasn't come up until now.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by cs616 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought we covered this in the RnF post, but here you are just hours later still spouting the same inaccurate statements. 93% of the same people, and comprised of 93% former TMO members are distinctly different statements. Using words accurately is important if you dont want to sound like a idiot. Continuing to use words inaccurately after being corrected is just willful ignorance or maliciously misleading.

Oh, all I thought that I had established before was you were imagining extra words "of" in places where it didn't exist. Apparently still the case.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This suspension was unwarranted.

Class C cooldown. Raid rule 17.

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken even detailed specific things that would warrant a 'new guild'

Sirken's suggestions were in regards to IB going from a class C guild to Rampage also a class C guild. You overlooked that you were trying to switch to class R and tried to use the same suggestions. For information on how to move to class R, see raid rule 17.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) as noted, Omni splintering off and working within the rotation structure is a good example of how to lead a guild without going full retard

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[Oleris]

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[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, they did. They just ignored them.