Hey Forsaken

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me know if you have a cogent argument about the Forsaken issue.

Seems mine and Rogean's opinions align on the issue. That's proably all that matters.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti,

1) In your esteemed* opinion, can a group of players go from Class C to Class R en masse without waiting for the 30-day cooldown period by merely changing their guild and therefore escaping (purposely or not) any restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to their original guild? Yes or no.

If yes, how does one ensure players aren't switching guilds en masse to avoid any sort of restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to the original guild?

If no, what the fuck have you been arguing about for the last 15 pages?

* lol

Side question:

What is the point of the class system. Isn't the point to allow guilds to get raid targets without having to fight the top 1, 2 guilds?
If so which class R guilds are allowed? Who decides this? Is the point of class R really just to limit the guilds participating to reduce the rotation size?

What this really seems like is BDA and others getting pissed that their might be more mouths to feed in the future that won't be in the guild that they approve.
That pixel lust.

[slappytwotoes]

Fookin Cloonies turned this into Who's the bigger Autist competition

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) In my opinion, this 1 statement is too broad. I'm sure you realize that though and are just trying to support your agenda.

Assuming we are following the current raid rules (which I find idiotic to begin with) I would fix that statement by saying you can't skirt punishments assigned to a group of people for bad behavior and you can't skip lockouts. However if you are reforming, or rebranding or splitting off from a guild, you should be allowed to switch classes to R as long as you don't kill a class C mob.

The problem with some people in this forum is they try to label Forsaken as just new TMO. That isn't the case. Forsaken does consist of many ex TMO players... but many players stayed in TMO also or rerolled red... or apped to other guilds. This is a true guild split which created an entirely new entity. New DKP, Leaders, Rules, Memberbase, guild bank, etc etc.

It is convenient for Class R to try to label them as TMO because it supports the agenda of all things TMO are evil(1) and the agenda of maximizing their (being current Class R members)loot potential(2).

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Side question:

What is the point of the class system. Isn't the point to allow guilds to get raid targets without having to fight the top 1, 2 guilds?
If so which class R guilds are allowed? Who decides this? Is the point of class R really just to limit the guilds participating to reduce the rotation size?

What this really seems like is BDA and others getting pissed that their might be more mouths to feed in the future that won't be in the guild that they approve.
That pixel lust.

^^^ More non-answer answers from Alarti. Dodging the questions. Arguing semantics. Why does this fool even bother?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti,

1) In your esteemed* opinion, can a group of players go from Class C to Class R en masse without waiting for the 30-day cooldown period by merely changing their guild and therefore escaping (purposely or not) any restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to their original guild? Yes or no.

If yes, how does one ensure players aren't switching guilds en masse to avoid any sort of restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to the original guild?

If no, what the fuck have you been arguing about for the last 15 pages?

* lol

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems mine and Rogean's opinions align on the issue. That's proably all that matters.

Proably all that will matter.


But I can't help point out your logical fallacy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Appeal to authority (argumentum ab auctoritate) – where an assertion is deemed true because of the position or authority of the person asserting it

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^ More non-answer answers from Alarti. Dodging the questions. Arguing semantics. Why does this fool even bother?

Debate the argument, not the person... if you can. Can you?
nahhh

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Appeal to authority (argumentum ab auctoritate) – where an assertion is deemed true because of the position or authority of the person asserting it

Remind me who's box this is, again?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Debate the argument, not the person... if you can. Can you?
nahhh

Just answer the questions. It looks like Yendor dumbed them down enough for you, but you can't even properly answer yes or no questions.

[Seltius]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sum 1 gon get maced

LOL oh noooo.

[Troubled]

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egads

ps Alarti is basically Cloki on crack with 20 less iq.