Hey Forsaken

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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think if the ruling went the other way, this could have been a potential result.

Agreed this is an issue. Until recently guilds have been easy to define. I have to agree with Alarti that the current system has all sorts of unintend consequences, such as having to redefine guild so it is more than just a tag (although I believe that was already a slight issue with the problems of 'alt guilds' in the past).

It's certainly an interesting discussion to read as someone completely outside to the guild scene.

Hello! New player here and forum junkie. As an outside opinion it looks like TMO had a problem with their leadership and took the opportunity to restructure. During this restructure they took advantage of an unclear section of the raid rules combined with a Sirken post to change raid classes. Now that newly restructured guild is playing the Tiny Tim with no Soup ploy to act like they're being discriminated against even tho there is evidence (via a forum screenshot) that they AT THE LEAST knew they were doing something questionable.

Why didn't this new guild just contact the staff for clarification? If the raid force was 95% TMO members, wouldn't they be familiar with the possible repercussions of gaming the system? Sounds like they went for forgiveness instead of permission.

Asking for clear cut cases of precedent like its a courtroom is scary. How would all of that information ever be catalogued? The staff would have to maintain an archive of people bitching with detailed information on everything from characters present to guild rosters.

IM A LEVEL 9 MIN/MAX OGRE WAR IN EC!
As a side note, if you're complaining that this suspension is going to make your guild any less ready for Velious after you've farmed Kunark for years....uhh lol