Port for donation logs?

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I inspect every person I port and determine the cost based at 10% of the value of all of their gear. Epic mq costs included. Payment up front, newbies who can't pay get a free port to toxx

Perfect! My new SOP.

[Whirled]

U could do /AFK my portz R 500plat mofo or gtfo!
or just port ppl for free like everyone else... nbd

[Triangle]

i find it odd that people expect ports free. Ports are worth a lot because of the time and effort they save you. for a mere 50pp you can save 20-60 minutes of your time. That is money well spent. dont have enough money to pay for a port? You can walk anywhere you can port to

This is coming from someone who has never played a porting class.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i find it odd that people expect ports free. Ports are worth a lot because of the time and effort they save you. for a mere 50pp you can save 20-60 minutes of your time. That is money well spent. dont have enough money to pay for a port? You can walk anywhere you can port to

This is coming from someone who has never played a porting class.

The devils advocate side: how long does it take the porter to regenerate that mana without buffs? A minute? Two minutes? Even donations as small as 10p add up to 600pp an hour of the time you lost porting people around ... and that's assuming you only get 10p donations. For a druid or wizard 29-40s that's a lot better money than they could make otherwise. Point is ... appreciate what you get. Most porters who work the high traffic areas (EC, OT, or always being available) will make a lot more money than that an hour. Farming seafuries for cash at best you're looking at 800-1k an hour in your 50s ... average closer to 500 an hour or less if there's much competition on the island.

Imo for non-twink lowbies ... anything you can afford is acceptable. Until recently we didn't have a lot of true blue p99 new guys at any given point in time. When i was brand new last year I needed a ride from Gfay to the commonlands (mostly to see the EC/WC zones that you can't find on live anymore to relive the nostalgia). At level 4 there was a random wizard about to port out and I asked if i could join him. I offered him something like 1p 4g (literally all i had on me other than my cloth armor). He smiled and turned down my donation.

Having said that ... any twinked out alt #27391 or character in their high 40s up to level 60 shouldn't be a dick and low-ball their porters.

I keep a minimum of 50p as well as a stack of peridots on me at all times to make sure that if I find myself out and about and need/want a port, I've got enough change on me to make it more than worth their while.

[Vorkon]

I think it comes down to the fact some guys are 'Porting for donations' then getting upset at whatever they are given as not enough or you can afford more, as others have mentioned if someone was advertising 'Ports to anywhere 50pp' everyone would be on the same page as to what the expected cost is.

[suppresso]

If there is a required "donation amount" it is no longer a donation and is a fee.

[Erica]

I don't port too often but when I do I have been adding them to a spreadsheet. Their name, current location when asking for the port, current location at the time of the port, my location when they asked, and the amount they gave. I do this to determine the distance we each traveled to make the port happen and put down a travel time rating. 0 if they were next to me, 1 if I had to port to a spire where they are, 2 if I had to port then run for a couple minutes, etc.

I don't really have a specific reason for it yet, just collecting data :P I also think there is a big difference in someone only handing me 10 or 20p after I spent 20 minutes getting to them, and 10 or 20p when someone joins a port I'm already making or when I was already next to them when they asked at a spire. Convenience of the person doing a service for you should always be considered. You don't need to hand me 100p if I was already standing next to you. But you had me go from EC to City of Mist, then 100+ would be nice. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you can just do something similar to that. Then with the magic of excel formulas you can find out your total plat earned from ports, average per port, average plat with distance considered (and level if you track it... but if they are /role or /anon are you going to ask their level every time?), etc and they keep updating with every new entry.

[Troxx]

Oh hell ... If someone is asking you to run to an obscure location to get them and port them, unless the porter was a close friend or a guildmate I'd call the portee a dick if they fork over less than 100.

The CoM pickup scenario should also involve a complimentary reach around.

Port to DL run to KC evac to EJ run to CoM ....

That's a bigger pita than your standard coordinated ejac which usually fetches 100-200.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devils advocate side: how long does it take the porter to regenerate that mana without buffs? A minute? Two minutes? Even donations as small as 10p add up to 600pp an hour of the time you lost porting people around ... and that's assuming you only get 10p donations.

at level 60? Lets say 20 mana a tick. That's going to be better than most porters.

10p x 60 ports = 600p

60 ports x 340 mana = 20,400 mana from ports and sows. Not counting pickup ports.

20400 / 20 = 1020 ticks / 10 = 102 mins worth of mana.

1 hours 42 mins for 600p.

That's assuming you can find 60 customers of course. Not all of them are gonna be cheap skates, but you're not doing 30 ports an hour either.
Porting isn't good money and bless the people who do it.