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[fefifofum]

^^ cough cough say it isn't so )=

[Blink]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretty naive if you don't think DA leadership was aware of koota's SEQ use. Durison is one of the shadiest guildleaders I've ever seen.

[Scrooge]

I wonder...if all the cheaters were banned, would there be more players left than if all the non-cheaters were banned instead?

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are many people who have been banned who used said cheats for personal gain, such as that kid who sat around Dagnor's and farmed Bilge for months using ShowEQ. Had he been in a guild, I don't believe the guild should have been punished in any way.

That kid had a name, Trimm. His name was Ralph Plsgo.

<chants> His name was Ralph Plsgo.

[Mountaineer]

/agree Trimm. Koota used showeq to track a mob...was fucking stupid on his part. That would have given us an unfair advantage toward the mob. He got banned and we were suspended from raiding for the week. We had no idea, but we took our punishment.

Now, apparently last night it was someone alt in lower guk doing something, i havent a clue. We got suspended for raiding again now for someone doing something stupid on an alt. We don't condone cheating, and if I see it being done by ANYONE, I'll make sure they never play here again. But if we don't see it being done? WHat can we do about it? Personally...i have NO idea how to see if someone is cheating. (other than by seeing something blatant). If I don't know someone is cheating, and can't prove it....what do I do? I don't want this. None of us in DA want this. We've busted our butts to do what we do. We spend tons of money on items and equip to be able to mobilize fast and kill stuff before other guilds. We don't need to cheat....we don't want to cheat. Apparently there are still dumbshits in the guild that feel like it though. So again. If we have no clue who is doing it? What can we do? I beg of you please help us out.

[Brad_mo123]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Swell plan there buddy, ban the accounts of people that don't cheat but had guildmates that were cheating. Great idea.

Why not? People get blamed and punish for an organization they are a part of all the time in the world when they directly were not in the act. They are well aware of what the guild does so they are just as guilty by staying there as are the poeple actually cheating.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Molitoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trimm, I really respect your guild and like you as a player.... although this time around, a new recruit was caught using macroquest in lowerguk. It had nothing to do with anything raid related.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the specifics. If that truly is the case, then I think only that player should have been punished.

[Mythoxxus]

Originally Posted by fefifofum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^ cough cough say it isn't so )=

Hi Fef, not sure what you mean by this, but I figure you know Durison pretty well. Can you clarify?

Mythoxxus

[karsten]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Players cry about cheating happening on the server. Check
Cheaters get banned. Check.
Players cry about the bans being too widespread and implicate the doom of the server. Check.
Players cry about the lack of punishment. (simultaneously) Check.
Players cry about the staff. Check.
Players cry about improper investigations banning too many people. Check.
Players cry about the lack of punishment. (simultaneously) Check.
Players cry about a situation for which they dont have all of the facts, yet still assume they do. Check.
Players cry about favoritism. Check.
Players cry about nazi leadership banning everying indiscrimately. (simultaneously) Check.

uthgaard i take back all the things i said about you, this is lolawesome

[Stefen]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We don't need to cheat....we don't want to cheat.

How sure are you of that? Do you honestly think DA leadership has no idea what's going on?

This is the nature of Zerg recruiting - you have very little idea who you're tagged with. While you seem sincere, I don't think you're qualified to speak for everyone tagged in DA.

I'm still amazed at the level of propaganda accepted by everyone with your tag. Despite the numerous cases of DA Cheating - Zone crashes, Item Duping, ShowEQ, etc, nearly everyone in DA seems convinced that the guild and it's leadership are legit.

Baaa goes the sheep. Baaaa.