a few unofficial rules for ip exemption

[quellren]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The "it fosters community" argument is complete bullshit. There is absolutely no evidence that the community is stronger without boxing. There is the same level of bullshit and elitism and anti-social behavior here as there is on any other server.

You've clearly never played on a server that allowed boxing. Go check out ANY of the other Emu servers and you'll realize that if I can (and I have) 6-box on PEQ, why the hell do I need to interact with anyone else? I have my own optimally configured party, and so does everyone else. Or at least they have the option to, no one is out there LFG.

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many people solo?
How many husband/wife/brother/sister/drunken clown/terrified child combos of people play together and don't engage the community?
How many guilds lock others out of content?
How many people refuse to group with sub-optimal players?

How much of that is due to boxing?

Why is it okay for two or fifty-four people to be insular, but if a single person does it on his or her own it's a grievous injustice that must be stamped out?

If it's even a little bit of a problem now, imagine how much worse it'll be when
1) those solos are now trios or quads
2) half a dozen poopsockers can now mobilize an ENTIRE Vox raid by logging in the whole force on 6 computers. 1/6 the moving parts (people) to coordinate means much faster engagement.

I cannot fathom how people don't see that boxing is bad in every respect every time.

[quellren]

Premature Submission:

OP, I'm sorry you got ban-hammered. It sucks, you were just trying to help your brother along, I get it. It wasn't malicious or intent to cheat.
But at the same time, you have to realize that per the HMFIC (head motherfucker in charge), you were boxing, and boxing isn't dealt with lightly.
In a post a few pages back, look at it from an admin PoV:
One of you is actively killing and the other is sitting doing nothing, and you both are logged in on the same IP.
Looks awful suspect man.

[Uthgaard]

You all are free to come to whatever conclusions you like, from what little information has been provided to you by the party who got wtfb&. Rants and Flames isn't a Tribunal. We have more logs and investigative tools than eqlive ever thought of having, Rogean has done a pretty amazing job of coding in logging systems that are so thorough, that there's really not much of anything that we CANT see.

I will say this, however. The 2boxing, and cheating, and RMT is becoming a rampant problem. And some people might think they're getting away with it. But you can never escape the logs. It doesnt matter if you bought some plat back in July. Sure, the person selling it might cash in, leave the server, and 'get away with it'. But whoever bought it, is fucking torched.

It doesn't matter if you don't like the resolution. We're here to maintain the integrity of a server, for what seems like no other reason than for you forum ingrates to bitch about it every step of the way.

So get ready for a whole lot more of these rage threads telling half-truths. If you've been involved in RMT, get ready for a ban. If you've 2boxed, get ready for a ban. If you've cheated, get ready for a ban. Trading it off onto other accounts won't save you. Deleting the characters used, won't save you. Dropping it on the ground wont save you. Nothing you can do, will save you.