Spells: shock of lightning

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by MEGANS LAW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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waiting for supposed proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

vote no.

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Velious/Luclin Era Sullon Zek here's Darwoth fully buffed getting lanced by a Shock of Lightning for full dmg.

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Another Velious/Luclon era screenshot...Damn looks like peoples gear sucked back then no way they could have high MR LMFAO! is that a bio orb in Darwoth's hand?

Now unless you can provide what doesn't exist, someone resisting a SOL in PVP velious/lucling era, get your lying ass off my thread and take your clown shoes with you.

[MEGANS LAW]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Velious/Luclin Era Sullon Zek here's Darwoth fully buffed getting lanced by a Shock of Lightning for full dmg.

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Another Velious/Luclon era screenshot...Damn looks like peoples gear sucked back then no way they could have high MR LMFAO! is that a bio orb in Darwoth's hand?

Now unless you can provide what doesn't exist, someone resisting a SOL in PVP velious/lucling era, get your lying ass off my thread and take your clown shoes with you.

So your sample size is 2?

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by MEGANS LAW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your sample size is 2?

I posted screenshots of it landing on a very high MR target like a lure, I posted multiple people talking about how it worked and it being unresistable from that era

At this point it's clear that Empire is being absurd and will not see reason on this subject.

[MEGANS LAW]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I posted screenshots of it landing on a very high MR target like a lure, I posted multiple people talking about how it worked and it being unresistable from that era

At this point it's clear that Empire is being absurd and will not see reason on this subject.

You posted two screenshots from Sullon Zek which came out in late Velious and obviously those screenshots are further into the timeline than just Velious.

Your sample size is exactly 2 and your evidence is anecdotal. This is obviously a ploy by a person who plays a wizard to get a buff to benefit themselves. Glad the staff sees through such obvious manipulation.

Still awaiting resist logs/evidence.

[Technique]

The funny thing is: those two shitty screenshots amount to more evidence than nirgon or anyone else provided in the resist thread when haynar came around asking how resists were supposed to work in pvp.

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by MEGANS LAW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You posted two screenshots from Sullon Zek which came out in late Velious and obviously those screenshots are further into the timeline than just Velious.

Your sample size is exactly 2 and your evidence is anecdotal. This is obviously a ploy by a person who plays a wizard to get a buff to benefit themselves. Glad the staff sees through such obvious manipulation.

Still awaiting resist logs/evidence.

there's no way to know if that's velious or Luclin in those screenshots, if it is Luclin than that's more in Favor that was unresistable because peoples geared increased

So far there has been.

1. Multiple threads of posts from that Era describing the spell as Unresistable

2. Numerous experienced PvPer's from that timeline all stating it was Unresistable.

3. Screenshots of High MR targets not resisting Shock of Lightning.

Here's two more SOL's landing on targets

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That is more Proof in Favor of it being Unresistable than denying it. At this point the Burden of Proof is on those denying it, you will have to come up with a screenshot showing it being resisted from that era. Just the fact that lvl 60's are shown regularly using the spell is common sense that it landed or why bother meming a lvl 12 spell that wouldn't land on anyone

Anyone with Common Sense would be forced to rule in favor of it indeed being unresistable in pvp (atleast as much as a lifetap or Lure was anyways)

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The funny thing is: those two shitty screenshots amount to more evidence than nirgon or anyone else provided in the resist thread when haynar came around asking how resists were supposed to work in pvp.

I know at this point it's absolutely insane, i have provided more proof that this is indeed how it works than anyone has ever provided for any previous pvp change on this server.

[Technique]

It wasn't unresistable in the sense that tash or malo are unresistable, so continuing to characterize it like that is just hurting your argument.

But like any pure nuke, it should be partialing vs. high resists far more often than it should be fully resisted. That's the issue, and one shared by all other pure nukes following the resist changes.

This is the result of setting resist "immunity thresholds" sourced from ol' nirnog's hazy recollections of gallivanting across Norrath in a pair of diamond rings and an SMR.

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't unresistable in the sense that tash or malo are unresistable, so continuing to characterize it like that is just hurting your argument.

But like any pure nuke, it should be partialing vs. high resists far more often than it should be fully resisted. That's the issue, and one shared by all other pure nukes following the resist changes.

This is the result of setting resist "immunity thresholds" sourced from ol' nirnog's hazy recollections of gallivanting across Norrath in a pair of diamond rings and an SMR.

It was able to be partial-ed yes. It's not an argument it's a fact you could resist Shock of Lightning about as much as you resisted lure in pvp, it would partial but not fully resist until the spell was changed in planes of power.

Out of 3000+ kills on Sullon from Velious/Luclin I used Shock of Lightning about every fight and can't remember a single time I saw a resist, and no other wizard I talk to from that era can as well. Fully unresistable Like Tash or Malo NO low resist like Lure(had to have like a -300ish on it because even bards and enchanters I fought rocking full MR buffs took Sol's to the face only other spell I saw like it for my wizard was Lure)

Chaotic Feedback and Shock of Blades worked the exact same way.

Poison Bolt I thought was the same but after talking to a few necro's it was more in line with splurt for resists.

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Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Velious/Luclin Era Sullon Zek here's Darwoth fully buffed getting lanced by a Shock of Lightning for full dmg.

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Another Velious/Luclon era screenshot...Damn looks like peoples gear sucked back then no way they could have high MR LMFAO! is that a bio orb in Darwoth's hand?

Now unless you can provide what doesn't exist, someone resisting a SOL in PVP velious/lucling era, get your lying ass off my thread and take your clown shoes with you.

I like this one, yea everyone that was any good rolled with 135 + mr