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Old 05-07-2015, 04:42 PM
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I expect a fine but I think any suspension is unlikely. I mean, the report dubbed him "probably generally aware" -- Brady retains plausible deniability. More importantly, the league office doesn't want this story rolling over into next season.

Seriously, it's not like Tom did anything truly harmful. It's not as if he smoked a joint or something.
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I hope he serves time for this!
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:46 PM
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From Robert Kraft:

"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level."

From Aaron Rodgers:

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game."

Where's the outrage over these? If the Patriots and Brady are guilty, so be it. It'll suck and I'll be annoyed with my team, but this definitely looks like a witch hunt.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:48 PM
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From Robert Kraft:

"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level."

From Aaron Rodgers:

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game."

Where's the outrage over these? If the Patriots and Brady are guilty, so be it. It'll suck and I'll be annoyed with my team, but this definitely looks like a witch hunt.
They should all be chemically castrated. End of story.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:49 PM
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The report implies several times these two have been working this scam for at least a few years.
The difference in fumble ratio between Pats #1 a the #2 team Ravens? is huge also.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:51 PM
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I'll admit, I don't read many reports from civil court, but apparently they're phrased in the nicest way possible. Sure, if you interpret it as a layman, "probably generally aware" doesn't sound so bad. But if you read it as a civil lawyer (like the person that wrote the report), it's a pretty strong indictment against Tom Brady.



Yeah, because habitual cheating isn't harmful to the sport at all.
The phrasing is used to establish guilt in a civil court generally. Enough for a civil court not enough for a criminal court.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:52 PM
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From Robert Kraft:

"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level."

From Aaron Rodgers:

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game."

Where's the outrage over these? If the Patriots and Brady are guilty, so be it. It'll suck and I'll be annoyed with my team, but this definitely looks like a witch hunt.
Is there a difference between inflating the balls before official measurement and deflating them after official measurement?
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:53 PM
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From Robert Kraft:

"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level."
Of course the Patriots owner is going to lie about what's in the report. Go to page 8. What he actually means to say is that after testing the first time, they tested a little lighter the second time. You've got to let a little bit of air out every time you test a ball, so come to your own conclusion.

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From Aaron Rodgers:

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,'” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game."
There's a huge difference between submitting the balls to the officials at 14psi and having the officials deflate the balls to 13.5psi and what the Patriots have done. Let me know when Aaron Rodgers has his ball boy steal the game balls after they've been turned over to the officials and then sneak them into the bathroom to add more air.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:57 PM
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Of course the Patriots owner is going to lie about what's in the report. Go to page 8. What he actually means to say is that after testing the first time, they tested a little lighter the second time. You've got to let a little bit of air out every time you test a ball, so come to your own conclusion.



There's a huge difference between submitting the balls to the officials at 14psi and having the officials deflate the balls to 13.5psi and what the Patriots have done. Let me know when Aaron Rodgers has his ball boy steal the game balls after they've been turned over to the officials and then sneak them into the bathroom to add more air.
But...its probably possible that he has based on this quote. Maybe? Close enough.
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Old 05-07-2015, 04:58 PM
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But...its probably possible that he has based on this quote. Maybe? Close enough.
Prove it.
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Old 05-07-2015, 05:00 PM
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Prove it.
Dont have to. Its probably probable. Good enough for Brady. Good enough for everyone else right?
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