Shamans

[Lime]

Shock of Lightning and Chaotic Feedback (.1 stun) were both effective in classic and basically useless here. Good players could counter it somewhat by using f9 to get a top down camera view, and adjusting your character's position back to the original position and hoping to regain your channeling so it carried a risk when using it on good players that they would adjust and then you eat a nuke to the face.

Became much less effective in Kunark with the addition of 3 second cast offensive spells, meaning if you were chain casting it you could just wait for it to land on you and then draught of fire/deflux immediately.

[Gotze]

Shamans are overall not that bad in pvp and are exceptionally well in PVE, even more so in velious compared to other classes

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Lime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shock of Lightning and Chaotic Feedback (.1 stun) were both effective in classic and basically useless here. Good players could counter it somewhat by using f9 to get a top down camera view, and adjusting your character's position back to the original position and hoping to regain your channeling so it carried a risk when using it on good players that they would adjust and then you eat a nuke to the face.

Became much less effective in Kunark with the addition of 3 second cast offensive spells, meaning if you were chain casting it you could just wait for it to land on you and then draught of fire/deflux immediately.

BOOM finally someone who actually did pvp during classic, Mage shock of blades and necro poison bolt worked the exact same way.

Chaotic Feedback was the worst of the four because it had a stun attached but it wasn't spammable due to the cooldown.

[Nirgon]

I had people gate or nuke me through shock of lightning after lvl 40ish pretty regularly for the era

My necro pal would asystole me most of the time through it in duels, but at low levels it was bad ass. This is just how channeling worked bud.

I stopped using it by the time most people were lvl 60 in Velious that I fought

You are wrong about it being rare that people channeled through it, and need to calm down

[Nirgon]

No shock of lightning memmed here in lvl 60 pvp... HMMMM...

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Here's getting hit with shock of lightning and casting through no prob (again.. 50+ range) but it also does give credit to chaotic feedback being viable (I agree with this)

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And someone getting smoked by an ice spear (you can also see that hitting a clicky refreshed ALL spell gems instantly, not just the top slotted one)

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Ice spear would get resisted or partialed by people in resist gear but if you got a good roll on it, it was a great quick finisher and a go to for trying to drop a healer on the ropes.


Seeing all the great caster kills reminds me that item loot was a good thing, people had to risk their resist gear. If they were a terribad and they were afraid to wear it ... then the good pvpers could assume substantial risk and have an upper hand. And sometimes the good pvpers got taken down by a band of clowns or had bad luck/bad resist or hit rolls.

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The end of the shock of lightning debate is if channeling is implemented correctly here and if the spell has the appropriate push back, it will be working as designed. As far as it being unresistable for people with 180+ MR yeah ok, sure post prof.

[Lime]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had people gate or nuke me through shock of lightning after lvl 40ish pretty regularly for the era

My necro pal would asystole me most of the time through it in duels, but at low levels it was bad ass. This is just how channeling worked bud.

I stopped using it by the time most people were lvl 60 in Velious that I fought

You are wrong about it being rare that people channeled through it, and need to calm down

I think the level of the spell effected how hard it was to channel after movement. Gate being a low level spell made it easier to channel. So it was harder to channel Sunstrike than it is draught of fire or gate. Also the direction the target convulsed was based on the direction your character was facing. So you could rotate your character while you were casting it to achieve different movement effects on the enemy. To achieve a higher chance to interrupt you would want to rotate so they would move diagonally or sideways. This made it harder to simply step forward or backwards and adjust your position to the start of the channel.

[Nirgon]

All they have to do is get the spell push amount right (looks right to me!) and verify that channeling is correct. Then everything else falls into place on this issue.

As far as poison bolt: I was playing Huff and got poison bolt spammed but was able to move back to my original casting location and get gate off prior to the big 200 man Sunday fight... felt real classic 2 me. The first few DID interrupt me and I do remember ebolt (so probs poison bolt too) being a pretty good interrupt.

I had more than enough people cast through shock of lightning when I was fighting them once channeling went up.

If you want caster buffs you need to start asking for item loot and spell clickies to instantly refresh ALL spell gems and not just the top slot. Chaotic feedback having its own special resist rate would be mucho classic too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[r34m]

Shamans are great. 99% of people don't cure pix of bertox, which will alone kill any caster self buffed. If people are curing bane of knife, lead with a level 5 poison. Torrent of poison is deadly.

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The end of the shock of lightning debate is if channeling is implemented correctly here and if the spell has the appropriate push back, it will be working as designed. As far as it being unresistable for people with 180+ MR yeah ok, sure post prof.

Everyone knows it landed regardless of MR, SMH it was like a lure.

Just stay off bug reports you seriously don't know what you are talking about.

[Lime]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seeing all the great caster kills reminds me that item loot was a good thing, people had to risk their resist gear. If they were a terribad and they were afraid to wear it ... then the good pvpers could assume substantial risk and have an upper hand. And sometimes the good pvpers got taken down by a band of clowns or had bad luck/bad resist or hit rolls.

Ya plz stop posting RZ screenshots because your making me far too excited. Nothing quite like a server with item/coin loot. Nothing quite like taking someones robe off them and auctioning it immediately afterwards. Eve is probably the only game on the market with a similar ruleset where you have to risk assets to compete.