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[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Syft-X [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are editing my quotes a usual Empire lie and deny tactic, I directly said I don't want fear added.

Gear saturation doesn't explain why rogues here are hitting harder then they ever did in velious, but as a rogue I completely understand why you are trying to defend a completely overpowered class that resembles nothing classic from this era.

Haven't edited a single quote of yours, they're all in the other forum for everyone to see. Also never stated that you were asking for fear/charm to be added for pvp, that's your lack of reading comprehension working for you there as well. I have, on numerous occasions now, stated that you're trying to create false evidence to show that fear/charm worked in pvp until 2002 (which they didnt), and have slandered everyone who tells you or has showed you proof otherwise.

Granted my memory isn't perfect, but I can say for certain that in my time in live during the end of kunark and start of velious...that I saw several rogues backstabbing for mid to high 400's at the gfay spires.

While that's not the 520 that we're capable of, our 520's are also with capped strength and the rogues I watched did not have any buffs. People from Tallon Zek will remember rogues like Amuk, Quiknuss, Tzuten etc who were all elves that spent a lot of time pvping at wizard spires. People from those eras will also remember that every big name shaman on that server would never have poison dots memmed because they didn't land (something else bk is crying for is the ability for shaman to pvp). They all relied on insidious decay and pox/plague to do damage.

So whether or not rogues hit as hard there I can't really say, if you can provide proof that we didn't I could give 2 shits about my class being nerfed, I am confident enough in my ability to contribute even if they take 70 damage off my max backstabs. And I sure as hell wont come crying to the forums about it, at worst I'll make another character and level it up if people feel I'd be of more use on a different class.

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't edited a single quote of yours, they're all in the other forum for everyone to see. Also never stated that you were asking for fear/charm to be added for pvp, that's your lack of reading comprehension working for you there as well. I have, on numerous occasions now, stated that you're trying to create false evidence to show that fear/charm worked in pvp until 2002 (which they didnt), and have slandered everyone who tells you or has showed you proof otherwise.

Granted my memory isn't perfect, but I can say for certain that in my time in live during the end of kunark and start of velious...that I saw several rogues backstabbing for mid to high 400's at the gfay spires.

While that's not the 520 that we're capable of, our 520's are also with capped strength and the rogues I watched did not have any buffs. People from Tallon Zek will remember rogues like Amuk, Quiknuss, Tzuten etc who were all elves that spent a lot of time pvping at wizard spires. People from those eras will also remember that every big name shaman on that server would never have poison dots memmed because they didn't land (something else bk is crying for is the ability for shaman to pvp). They all relied on insidious decay and pox/plague to do damage.

So whether or not rogues hit as hard there I can't really say, if you can provide proof that we didn't I could give 2 shits about my class being nerfed, I am confident enough in my ability to contribute even if they take 70 damage off my max backstabs. And I sure as hell wont come crying to the forums about it, at worst I'll make another character and level it up if people feel I'd be of more use on a different class.

I think I stated like 10 times on that thread I don't want fear or charm added here, you're arguing with patch notes not me. I only played on Rallos and Sullon so I can't confirm when fear or charm was nerfed on every server.

Notes state 2002 for all.

No You may not have come to the forums crying about it but your guild mates Colgate and Nirgon cry on bug reports every damned day to get classic mechanics changed in favor of their guild. So you don't have to do it they will happily do it for you.

Although you make some fun claims that are all total BS I was the one who bug reported malosini landing, yep that was me buddy day 1 of patch, when I mained a shaman. But your elaborate ruse to keep your class insanely overpowered was almost as entertaining as your fictional story of how u fully resisted fire spells with 108 fire, totally forgetting about mods on spells t-flux staff. Or how rogues where the badasses of whatever server you played on but when EQ had an official board there was maybe 1 rogue ranked in the top 100.

For someone who calls for proof for everything you sure give nothing to back up these wild stories of yours.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Syft is referring to these patch notes where it states

In that same thread of patch notes you can see this:



If we search for december the 14th and cross-reference it by tuesday, then these were patch notes from 1999.

Please give it a rest.

1999 calender

You can check the next 3 years if you want, but I've already done it and the only dec 14th on a tuesday in that time span was in 1999.

an admirable effort to adjust BK to reality

he's always going to be a dumb fuck, don't waste your breath

the patch notes I dropped put an end to his retard parade, just pay him no mind

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

an admirable effort to adjust BK to reality

he's always going to be a dumb fuck, don't waste your breath

the patch notes I dropped put an end to his retard parade, just pay him no mind

Was it that before or after you claimed to be an authority on classic pvp and stated shock of lightnings should be easily resisted in this era?

hue hue hue

Nirgons quest for custom rules to continue his uncontested pixel parade.

[Nirgon]

BK... people didn't have 190 unbuffed MR on RZ in Kunark/early Velious

get that thru your sicko dome

[fred schnarf]

Originally Posted by BigMagicJerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just joined this server and have a question about shaman viability for PvP -

I know I'm coming up against twinks; however, from having everything either resisted, dispelled via pumices or cured with an unending chain of potions - I am beginning to question their power.

Have I just been unlucky? Maybe I should just go with a SK afterall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it gets better at higher levels (low level PvP right now) - what do you guys think?

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clicked on your name by accident

works in insurace ya'll

ps too many shamans around

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BK... people didn't have 190 unbuffed MR on RZ in Kunark/early Velious

get that thru your sicko dome

Shock of lightning landed like a lifetap in classic lol you're digging your hole deeper and deeper. Literally everyone who pvp'd knew this, it had zero to do with someones MR.

Kirban never resisted a shock of lightning and his gear was the absolute best in luclin era. Even Macken took every shock of lightning without a single resist and he was a BIS vex thal geared Enchanter, you will never attain the gear Ruin had at their disposal and never once did I see a single resist from shock of lightning it wasn't until pop that sol was changed.

All you are doing right now is proving to everyone that you never pvp'd in classic.

[Nirgon]

ok i never pvped on Rallos Zek you got me, now will you shut up

I hope you realize that if channeling is correct you're going to take lures/ice spear to the face if you try shock of lightning spam on a lvl 60

I'm sure this also has nothing to do with you being the person playing Murda all the time

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok i never pvped on Rallos Zek you got me, now will you shut up

I hope you realize that if channeling is correct you're going to take lures/ice spear to the face if you try shock of lightning spam on a lvl 60

I'm sure this also has nothing to do with you being the person playing Murda all the time

I don't play Murda lol that is Runya. (I know your really trying to BS the staff but ya know they can check and confirm I don't play Murda)

Lure is 4.5 Shock of lightning was considered the bread and butter of wizards in classic, it was VERY rare to see someone channel a 4.5 after they got blasted with an sol. Duck interrupt casting also helps time and jam spells with much more skill. Icy spear is faster but won't land now even with -10 mod especially not after blue diamond jewelry is made.

Can't fathom how deranged a player has to be to spend all day on Bug reports arguing for classic when they never pvp'd in classic. You and Colgate are prolly the shadiest immersed players ever to grace this server.