Are there any ways/things we can do so the admins know we are not boxing?

[imajester]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't read the thread, but my twin brother and I have played since launch and have never been tested for boxing. We've even had my bard autofollow his Monk with healing song for up to an hour with no issues.

Just make sure when a GM comes knocking, that everyone is ready to go.

While not the definition of boxing it does violate the spirit what the rules are trying to not allow.

[Trowadeath]

Originally Posted by Brocode [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its ok to PL, just not box PL.

What does that even mean? I think it's silly to say PLing is okay unless you happen to live together.

[cyrusdark]

Had a cousin who's seven year old niece was playing with him at an IP Exempt household. Ended up suspended and never managed to get a reversal. He quit - it was a full one month suspension.

The test is actually difficult - mine have lasted minutes on end where the gm moved all around while requiring us to do opposite circles. The downside is he had run speed, I didn't, and it was almost impossible to keep up let alone run circles. We were told we did 'poorly' but passed. I told him he should have unencumbered me and gave me run speed for a short duration for the test - his lack of insight or caring was astounding.

One of my side accounts, as well as my wife's, were suspended for one month on the first failed 'test' recently. It was power-leveling a new player/friend. I would walk in, buff on my machine, then go back to cooking/watching House of Cards in the living room till my audio trigger told me it was time. By the time she called me in saying some guy showed up, the '30 seconds to begin' had already ran out and the accounts were kicked.

I understand that some poeple attempt to get away with it. I understand that more leniency would let some of the abusers go, but the methodology and strict adherance means you can't risk going AFK for any length of time, regardless. Dont let kids play that don't have the ability to move in a specific direction around a moving target that adjusts randomly. Camp if you're afk, even if its just a smoke break, and so forth.

For every box they catch, there are those such as myself who get suspended unreasonably. I don't blame the GMs. They have a methodology that works, but also manages to screw some innocent people, and we have no way to argue it. Someone in the restroom is not an excuse. Cooking while afk and throwing a Heroic Bond as necessary is no excuse. You have to be hyper-vigilant and take measures to ensure, at any moment, all players are ready to perform circus-level acts within 30 seconds of instructions. Otherwise, be prepared for a 30-Day or longer suspension, ban, IP Exemption removal or more.

If it was a legitimate case, I'd tell ya. They already acted as if it was, and pleading innocence does no one any good. Be ready, take precautionary measures, and hope your tests always go well. No matter how many you win, you're going to lose that one time you aren't perfectly ready.

[mgellan]

The advice I got from Eunomia was not to be AFK for any reason anytime on any of the toons in case the Staff decides to test you - I make my kids log off to go to the can or when they tab out to do something else when we play. If they decide to make you run in circles claiming one person is AFK doesn't cut it.

Regards,
Mg

[BulletCatcher]

The tests administered by GM's... do they only get tested when the IPs are the same? I have some low level friends I was planning on PLing soon and I want to avoid any extra attention. My friends IPs are different than mine. Is there still concern for this? I mean someone could set up a VPN or SSL tunnel to mask obscure the IP addresses.

[PDX0621]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

He thought to himself "Hey I actually got away with 2 boxing" and decided he always would.

[imajester]

This brings up an interesting question. I just got a friend (played back in 2000 with me on The Nameless) to join and he just started a necro. I have a Shammy I can power level him with. Is is ok to say sit in the EC tunnel and buff him when he texts my phone or calls out over skype or something? I haven't done it yet, and I may just level up a toon with him instead, but I should find out if it is ok to buff him and be afk. We are not in the same household and have different IPs. Mine will even be two or more different IPs if I take my laptop to work to afk buff him when there.

What is the policy on something like that?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by BulletCatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have some low level friends I was planning on PLing soon and I want to avoid any extra attention.

Tell them to keep moving around and not just sit in the same corner while they gain exp. Have them talk in /say occasionally instead of /group.

Example, if all a cleric ever does is stand, ch, sit, then buff every 45 minutes, that looks suspicious as hell. But if the cleric is actively participating in the group rooting mobs, stunning, spot heals, moving around, that demonstrates someone is actively playing that character.

If 3 people sit off to the side afk, while the bard in the group kites a hundred mobs, that is going to look suspicious.

[soggygorilla]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.