Play Nice Policy/LNS/RvR needs overhaul before Velious

[Lime]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Camping is not LNSing and has been defined as such by sirken. Doing so forfeits your guilds LNS. The closest zone you could camp out in would maybe be DN as WW is considered adjacent.

Please show me in the current LNS policy where it says this.

[Silent]

Been around, various diff teamspeaks on and off. Though ive been sick lately so only been on when needed and mostly doing bitch work. Few more days I should be back to goog health.

[Samsung]

Originally Posted by Silent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Been around, various diff teamspeaks on and off. Though ive been sick lately so only been on when needed and mostly doing bitch work. Few more days I should be back to goog health.

log on ts pal and get well

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Lime [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please show me in the current LNS policy where it says this.

After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med enough mana to safely get out of the zone (ie, enough for a couple casts of invisibility, FD, or a port spell), memorize those spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone.


???? That clearly states you must leave, and if you don't, the LNS timer hasn't started.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After retrieving your corpse, you are allowed a short amount of time to med enough mana to safely get out of the zone (ie, enough for a couple casts of invisibility, FD, or a port spell), memorize those spells, and then must leave the zone immediately for 1 hour. This timer will start after the last person has exited the zone.


???? That clearly states you must leave, and if you don't, the LNS timer hasn't started.

lets ignore this shit hb. this stuff is beneath the Dragonslayer family's concerns.

[heartbrand]

The issue isn't the LNS rules, it's the people petitioning dumb shit to get people banned, and the lack of staff manpower to be online and observe.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue isn't the LNS rules, it's the people petitioning dumb shit to get people banned, and the lack of staff manpower to be online and observe.

Heh I agree , I got suspended for killing Samhain 20 minutes after he called lns and didn't leave the zone . I also provided prof ect.. And derubael hit me with a 2 week suspension

[Buhbuh]

Yeah, there's really no medium where people can provide counter evidence for people's claims.

They need to start handing out the exact punishment used on PnP violators to the people who are fishing for illegitimate bans instead of just taking people's word for it when they're wrong.

That might solve the trigger happy petitionquesting. And you legitimately should eat a suspension for wasting a GM's time. There are people on this server who seem like they have almost a petition a day against other players.

The point is, no one on this server in the level 50-60 range is being aggrieved that badly in game to merit petitions of the volume we're seeing. Almost no one that I've seen in the past three months has crippled the game play of others to even justify a small suspension. LnS violations are very rarely an egregious disregard for the server rules.

Half the suspensions done yesterday were the most insane, idiotic suspensions, but because there's no measure to actually prove your innocence, we just have a suspend and ask questions later culture developing.

And by the time someone is able to get back to you? The suspension is already a week old.

Something in the PnP needs to change, be eliminated or re-tooled to stop wasting everyone's time.

Right now you can spend ten minutes of your day petitioning that someone did something injurious in game to you, and the exchange you get is a week (or more) of the alleged wrongdoer's time. It takes no effort to petition without proof, yet it works like a charm.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, there's really no medium where people can provide counter evidence for people's claims.

They need to start handing out the exact punishment used on PnP violators to the people who are fishing for illegitimate bans instead of just taking people's word for it when they're wrong.

That might solve the trigger happy petitionquesting. And you legitimately should eat a suspension for wasting a GM's time. There are people on this server who seem like they have almost a petition a day against other players.

The point is, no one on this server in the level 50-60 range is being aggrieved that badly in game to merit petitions of the volume we're seeing. Almost no one that I've seen in the past three months has crippled the game play of others to even justify a small suspension. LnS violations are very rarely an egregious disregard for the server rules.

Half the suspensions done yesterday were the most insane, idiotic suspensions, but because there's no measure to actually prove your innocence, we just have a suspend and ask questions later culture developing.

And by the time someone is able to get back to you? The suspension is already a week old.

Something in the PnP needs to change, be eliminated or re-tooled to stop wasting everyone's time.

Right now you can spend ten minutes of your day petitioning that someone did something injurious in game to you, and the exchange you get is a week (or more) of the alleged wrongdoer's time. It takes no effort to petition without proof, yet it works like a charm.

lol tldr


seek help

[Fael]

We also need clear rules.

If we are not allowed to snare players that have mobs chasing them, then it needs to be stated somewhere clearly.

In my opinion, any person that would petition such a thing should get a seven day suspension. Instead, we are answering such petitions and suspending accounts of players that had no intention to violate any rule, or even knew that such a rule was in existence.