Rampage stall on VS kill

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Intent is there and clear. The TMO tactic on every single raid mob is train up, kite around while raid force engages, and then FD/gate the train to leave everybody else to deal with your mess.

Every single raid mob huh?

Want to take a guess at who was first to kite/train Fear while killing CT/Draco?

Want to take a guess at who was first to kite/train Hate while killing Inny (either in his room or pulled to zone in)?

Want to take a guess at who was first to kite/train KC while killing VS (back when Bard Mez was OP)?

Want to take a guess at who was first to train Ice Giants while killing Vox?

Want to take a guess at who was first to train Fire Giants while killing Nagafen?

Your anger is misplaced young padawan.

Originally Posted by Formshifter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds like they cant handle killing normal merbs to me

If anyone stops to kill normal merbs, then you lose out on the boss. Welcome to P99 where first in force isn't recognized and the almighty yellow FTE message is all that matters because thems the rules

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what does that make you? you played on blue all day, everyday, for multiple years with accounts full of level 60 alts

He learned the way of the Bushido and chose the red pill.

[Juevento]

I hope and feel like real progress can happen. Is there a way we could come to an agreement that training mobs around is perhaps not the best way to do things?

[Aviann]

Didn't read all the crap in thread, but just to remind the OP... You are in BDA, who also happened to have trained twice during the quake. Thankfully the rest of the server isn't a bunch of ninnies like you OP. Your best bet is to walk on home before a hole is dug

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just jaded and expect nothing to happen to Rampage. The VS encounter hasn't changed since the zone line rules were added. We've been absolutely crushed by trains on 2 of the last 3 attempts.

The same thing always happens. Trains come from every which way, guilds get wiped the fuck out, someone manages to rebuild faster and that guilds wins. The last time we got VS it was R and there was a bit of competition but my guild had strict orders to not even enter the pit with aggro, they were only allowed to move down with harmony/lulls, no trains. Everything went perfectly fine.

We camped out for VS yesterday at the zone line anticipating a repop from that announcement. We had 30 immediately after the earthquake which should have been plenty of time to get things done. We had 4 clerics, 2 warriors, and some dps ready to go in the pit clean and buffing and got fucking annihilated.

There was a Rampage bard doing a train out, calrizien dropping about a million mobs on our clerics, and that was that. I sent a tell to snackies and his response was "well those mobs were dropped on him" and that's why nothing will ever change. It's apparently ok to use that strat of train everything. In fear there's wide open spaces to get away, you can easily fraps in fear, but VS (and Hate) are the two absolute bullshit encounters because training is ok. There's 10 different ways into the pit, can't fraps every angle from 3 different levels to see the perps, you just get fucked.

I'm sure the rhetoric is just "counter train you idiots" but that shouldn't be what's required, there should just be no fuxking trains. It's not hard to get into the pit without aggro if you're responsible. It's easier though to recklessly rush down, push mobs onto your competiton to buy time, then shrug your shoulders and demand perfect fraps from every angle plus two months of waiting to get anything accomplished.

The new rules made many encounters less painful, but Inny/Hate and VS are still the worst of the fucking worst.

Calrizien literally lies to his guild about what happens. Should have seen a fraps of his claiming a bard aggroed 2 drakes and his frakes clearly shows 2 Drakes already aggroed in front of the bard. It's comical at times the claims.

[Lazie]

fraps* that is

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope and feel like real progress can happen. Is there a way we could come to an agreement that training mobs around is perhaps not the best way to do things?

Like Sirken said in his stream, countries that actively have people killing each other IRL have better lines of communication and diplomacy than the guild leaderships on P99.

[Lazie]

Just to confirm =)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHYyjrXwY-w

[Swish]

More rules encourages more fraps, screenshots and petitions. That then turns into more threads about how people are too immersed, that guild X is an asshole and ensures more raid bans.

I'd say thats good for RNF and we press ahead, but giving the staff more stress and petitions to pick through probably means less earthquakes because people can't be nice.

Quite the junction we're standing at...

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Calrizien literally lies to his guild about what happens. Should have seen a fraps of his claiming a bard aggroed 2 drakes and his frakes clearly shows 2 Drakes already aggroed in front of the bard. It's comical at times the claims.

You mean the guy that "got lost" pulling sev then guild removed the next day to join the competition and used his kite to get his prior guild suspended isn't a straight shooter?