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Old 04-20-2015, 11:50 AM
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Not to mention how grueling 54 is with the experience penalty
Yeah , but a Iksar Monk has a Higher XP penalty than a SK other than Toll, Iksar. 44% versus 40%. But a Monk can kill a LOT faster to make it up and go ahead of a SK. And a Iksar is pretty much to me the ONLY way to go solo Monk wise.

But I do like playing my Iksar SK, just holding of untill Velious to level it up more. Just too hard now to bother now. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-20-2015, 01:53 PM
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Do have a chuckle though if there's an iksar monk in the group protesting about hybrid xp... a lot of them don't realize they've got more than a racial penalty.
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:14 PM
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Ogre SK is 61% penalty, Iksar Monk is "only" 44%.
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:54 AM
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if you are solo'ing then it is probably just a matter of time. it is far "easier" (i.e. less time) to level a monk to 60 than an sk.

monks can solo better than an SK with the right gear. no exp penalty. monks also find grps easier than an SK if you plan on solo'ing between groups. in fact, its not even close monks are extremely group friendly.
Monks have a 20% penalty
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:21 PM
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Monks have a 20% penalty
A HUMAN Monk has a 20%, Iksar is 44% total. Iksar, Troll SK is 68%.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Sortable_Race_Class_Matrix

So a Iksar Monk is worse than any other class to have in a group other than a Iksar, Troll SK. Pally, Ranger, Bard, normal SK, etc. is 40% penalty.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:56 PM
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The statement that MONKS have a 20% penalty is perfectly correct - especially given the context of correcting someone specifically referencing the class as having no penalty. Yes, Iksar Monks have more of one, but that's because of their racial penalty.

With regards to saying that an Iksar Monk is worse than other other class to have in a group... that's only if you're grouping purely based on level. Ideally, you want to group based on total character xp which ends up with everyone getting the same xp per kill even if there's a multiple level gap between characters.
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:44 PM
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The statement that MONKS have a 20% penalty is perfectly correct - especially given the context of correcting someone specifically referencing the class as having no penalty. Yes, Iksar Monks have more of one, but that's because of their racial penalty.

With regards to saying that an Iksar Monk is worse than other other class to have in a group... that's only if you're grouping purely based on level. Ideally, you want to group based on total character xp which ends up with everyone getting the same xp per kill even if there's a multiple level gap between characters.
Iksar Monks are worse than having a Pally XP wise. What don't you get? 44% penalty versus 40%. Swish said it in a tongue in check way very well. Iksar Monks on average have no clue how much they drag down a group at high levels to getting XP. Faster to have a Ranger pull in outdoor zones with Harmony, KC, CoM comes to mind, than a Iksar Monk and they have less of a XP penality.

Bottom line is a Iksar Monk is a drag on a group looking for min max XP high levels. YMMV. They end up being like a Hybrid like it or not.
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Old 04-22-2015, 08:12 PM
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Monk for sure, especially with a fungi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SKs can be more of a problem to level. Not just because their DPS is lower but they're sometimes overlooked after CoM when people are grinding out 51-60.

Suddenly getting grouped in KC in particular is very difficult, monks "can" tank in KC and often do, especially if there's a fungi involved.

SKs struggle with dps more and more vs mob health as the levels go by, I fear kite in KC on my SK (52) while LFG and it takes a long long time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:32 AM
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I would agree with Swish on that Quote completely. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:03 AM
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SKs are hard to play, at least I think so. I had the SK epic on the live server too and I didnt think it was all that good for the work put into it. Ratman guard sucked, took FOREVER. I think monks are funner to play, easier to level and more dps.
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