Velzira Petition Clarification

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by pegleg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion you were justified Ridez. If he tried to take the mob before when you were the first at the camp, then its bullshit that once hes first there he expects you not to try and take his.

good point

if true it makes him look pretty bad for coming and crying to the forums

[lolondar]

hmm just thought i a lowly bluebie would wiegh in here feel free to make fun if im reading this correctly your not saying BANNN HER HARDER your trying to clarify rules on a spawn which seems correct to me. also having not read the rules for the PvP server you seem to be doing the right thing! so keep it up sorry wont be able to chase me down and kill me cause i dont like the pvp shite on EQ but have a nice day and keep trying to do right

[WesSide]

<--- Still thinks Curse sucks balls! I will kill them on sight. Can't wait for you to level up Ridez!

[Veltira]

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I posted because sirken posted my name and because I felt bad if someone got banned and they did not deserve it

I would have posted on velziras thread but I thought it was against the rules to publicly talk about petitions and gm rulings. Sirken said I could post if I wanted to.

My hope is that if the ban is unfair it will be removed.

For those who don't care, they don't have to read or post.

Dude... I'm rich enough that a 800pp earring is not a big deal to me. If you needed it that badly, or felt like I was so unjust in my treatment with you, why didn't you send me a message? Why didn't you contact me and hash it out? I had no intention of KS'ing you. I have no idea who you even are. You turned this into some vendetta and petition-fished me into a ban. I'm a nice person, I'm incredibly generous for a red player because early on in my time on red i was taken under wing and helped. This server needs more of that. Contacting Gm's over this stuff to get someone banned is beyond me man, this was a minor incident but because you got upset i'm now banned for a week. Thanks friend.

If this earring is that important to you I will GIVE you one the second i'm unbanned and I'll even post a screenshot of me doing it here in this thread for proof. I don't care about your loot, or your drama, I want to get back to playing the game I love.

[kildone]

Originally Posted by Veltira [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude... I'm rich enough that a 800pp earring is not a big deal to me. If you needed it that badly, or felt like I was so unjust in my treatment with you, why didn't you send me a message? Why didn't you contact me and hash it out? I had no intention of KS'ing you. I have no idea who you even are. You turned this into some vendetta and petition-fished me into a ban. I'm a nice person, I'm incredibly generous for a red player because early on in my time on red i was taken under wing and helped. This server needs more of that. Contacting Gm's over this stuff to get someone banned is beyond me man, this was a minor incident but because you got upset i'm now banned for a week. Thanks friend.

If this earring is that important to you I will GIVE you one the second i'm unbanned and I'll even post a screenshot of me doing it here in this thread for proof. I don't care about your loot, or your drama, I want to get back to playing the game I love.

I posted in the petition forum in the spirit of 'hey as I understand the rules multiple people have stolen a kill am I right or wrong?' You just happened to be in the example.

If proven right, in the future, I would send a tell to people knowing I was right then maybe petition in the spirit this person should be punished and maybe I should get the loot.

It still seems to me that I was right based on GM actions and the report that based your ban on me being FTE and that is the opposite of being at camp first.
I have asked in OOC about the rules and have gotten for answer:

There are no rules
Static mobs are camps
Go play blue
Stfu
And worse

I have had conversations with some players and had quite toxic feedback. I have learned to keep my mouth shut. Someone in your guild harassed me in shout about my guild and they would let anybody but curse have the kill. I have had guild encounters with yours regarding other mobs where talking did not seem a viable solution. So I did not approach you first I judged you by your actions which was that whether you were there first or not you would try to take the kill. I felt I had exhausted the communication route when it comes to dealing with your guild members.

If I want to question the staff in the only way I know how that is between the staff and I and no business if anyone else. They could have told me I was wasting their time and take a different route to answer my question.

If they decide to ban you based on my question oriented petition then that is between the staff and yourself and none of my business.

Please note that I did post this thread because I feel bad if you were banned in error and to hopefully get further clarification on the rules.

I could have just kept my mouth shut and petitioned the next guy who takes a mob when I am first to engage.

To all those others who have posted their opinions, I appreciate it, but until a staff member posts then they are just that, opinions. A staff member can either
Tell me or post here that my petition was badly worded and I am actually in the wrong
Clarify in exact terms the PnP policy on kill stealing - I guess I'm stupid if I am the only one confused
Revoke PnP
Or other options I can't think of

Until then I am left with no other alternative than to believe that I was correct in my interpretation and followed the correct course of action.

[Veltira]

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they decide to ban you based on my question oriented petition then that is between the staff and yourself and none of my business.

Which is why you made this thread, in a public place. I tried to find a middle ground with you here, i even offered you the item back. As for people hurting your feelings in /shout how do i have any control over that? You've done a great job of both screwing me over and making a bad reputation for yourself with this. If you truly wanted clarification you would have come to the forums and used the petition there; instead you have some personal problem with me. What sucks the most is that you truly think you are right and that i'm some bitch who deserved banning. Instead you helped drive a good player from your ranks over a 800pp earring. Sad man.

[Rednaros]

Pretty sure FTE doesnt mean jack shit on Red unless its a mob with multiple PHs across the zone. If the players are out of range then it goes by who was there first, so infact you should be punoshed for trying to KS his mob but failing...

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by kildone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I spent 4.5 hours one day getting Hadden timer.

lol

[Colgate]

this thread/issue is very dumb

guy could have easily asked in /ooc, asked on the forums, or asked in a petition in such a way that didn't compile evidence against a certain player while saying "LOOK AT WHAT HE DID TO ME IS THIS ALLOWED?" even though the player crying was clearly in the wrong

[Rednaros]

So let me just make sure im understanding this...i dont want to argue with false information
Veltira was at the camp before you, but you engaged the mob first despite not being the person holding the camp, didnt get the kill, and so you petitioned him and got him banned for killing a mob he was camping?
Edit: ive gone back in the thread and you contradict yourself many times on your view on who was there first...which is it?