Welcome to Class C! <Haggard Krew> !

[Dabeach]

Originally Posted by Nuktari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm really disappointed in all of you.

This thread was created to congratulate the new addition to Class C, <HK>.

But instead, yall had to turn this into the same old shit throwing parade seen in all the other threads. Broken record much, guys?

Shame on you, shame on you all.

#whereisthelove #whycantwebefriends #imnotmadatyouimjustdisappointed

/Salute Nuktari , I wasn't there for the kill even, basturts eh )

Dabeach 59 Enchanter of Haggard Krew.

PS Can someone lock this thread please [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Suspicions confirmed. Will take that as a deny.

To answer your question, there was a bunch of ongoing negotiations (and some small changes) in the months leading up to the eventual ultimatum/disbanding of the rotation.

But most meaningful change was resisted.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by ctre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tasslehofp99

In fairness, BDA did contribute a lot to the construction of the rotation system.
However there motive for this was pixels..
Same reason for them trying to break it.

nuffsaid.

The motivation was pixels, yet for some reason they spearheaded a rotation system to last a year that got them fewer pixels than if had they not wasted all that time making and following a rotation.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To answer your question, there was a bunch of ongoing negotiations (and some small changes) in the months leading up to the eventual ultimatum/disbanding of the rotation.

But most meaningful change was resisted.

Thanks. I suppose it's all very subjective of what 'meaningful change' is. Someone post the damn thread from those forums so we can make up our own minds.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks. I suppose it's all very subjective of what 'meaningful change' is. Someone post the damn thread from those forums so we can make up our own minds.

Meaningful changes to close up the loop holes some of the smaller guilds were using. I don't know the exact hours here this is just from observation. I'm no one important.

There was a provision that if you needed the help of another guild within your allotted engage time before the Class R mob you were up for went FFA to other Class R guilds, then you and any guilds helping you went to the bottom of the rotation.

But you could just wait until those 3 hours were up until it was "FFA" (FFA to other Class R guilds, but usually no one bothered to push it until right before it was FFA to Class C also) and THEN get your other small ally guilds to help you kill it and only the single guild goes to the bottom of the lockout.

Then you do the same for your allies when their up in the rotation. This slowed down the rotation two fold - both by taking the entire allotted window and your "alliances" taking up multiple spots in the rotations - so the raid mobs with the best loot you could kill with small numbers like VS and Trak were being exploited using this technique.

Basically all the provisions that were created on behalf of the small guilds who couldn't field a kill force at odd hours made it so the way to get the most loot is to slim down your guild or splinter off from one of the bigger guilds.

[Man0warr]

I typed lockout when I meant rotation.

The 3 kill lockout for Class R was irrelevant since the rotation for every mob was 8-12 guilds long.

[Llodd]

Yeah I understood the mechanics of what was going down. Was more interested in how it played out.. probably never rly know. The way it ended with that 'ultimatum' was just bizarre.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The motivation was pixels, yet for some reason they spearheaded a rotation system to last a year that got them fewer pixels than if had they not wasted all that time making and following a rotation.

Get off Chests dick dawg, sheiiit

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meaningful changes to close up the loop holes some of the smaller guilds were using.

Just encourages a 90 man zerg (with 20 waiting in a neighbouring zone at all times) for every dragon doesn't it?

Meaningful change would be to push well tooled guilds with muchos VP keys into C [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get off Chests dick dawg, sheiiit

Where did I mention Chest? Your obsession with him is unhealthy.