Request to make Ragefire classic

[Samoht]

Does Verina Tomb drop raid loot now?

[Tameth]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen him spawn while we were killing his dragon form.

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[Lifebar]

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[Nuktari]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does Verina Tomb drop raid loot now?

No but she's almost always being socked, just like RF, but not to the same degree.

I see your point though, without the incentive of other loot (Ro armor, cash drops), she isn't a mob of high contest. Being unable to MQ that piece is also a benefit. That being said, if the rotation is solely to attune clerics with epics, then you gotta apply that same ruling for all epic mobs that have a line of people shooting for it. And no one is going to do that.

But the principal is the same here, if you want a mob/item, you better put your time in, just like everyone else.

This isn't World of Warcraft where you get high end items on character creation.

[Samoht]

I think the point is missed completely because Ragefire would roll to FFA after a short time, and it would be completely unnecessary for VT or VD to ever roll to FFA because they are completely worthless outside of Enchanters that need epics. They also spawn organically without requiring a quest to be turned in, so you cannot troll someone out of their VT/VD pearl like you can with RF.

Therefore my proposal would not be useful when solving VT or VD disputes. It's only intended to work for Ragefire.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Nuktari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't World of Warcraft where you get high end items on character creation.

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the folks selling cleric & rogue epic MQs to level 1 alts.

[Pint]

10 pages and nobody just outright told this guy that the gms will not enforce a RF rotation and a player rotation for RF is less likely than a luclin release? You guys gotta stop misrepresenting this server, you can't shave every day AND get ahead on this box.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a guild we (BDA) typically only chase after Ragefires when we have new members looking to finish an epic (which is the case at the moment) but the root cause issue of why Ragefire sucks is because there's plenty of farmers that are only there to duo/trio him for the cash. The cleric MQ, CoF, gaunts of fiery might, red scales, the dragon bag, and potentially the no-drop pieces can be sold for a pile of plat.

You are only half right here. The "root cause" is that we are super far behind the time line: the server is bloated with too many high end (lvls and gear) chars on an order that exceeds live probably 30 times over. It is that far out of whack at the moment.

There is virtually no community based solution to this problem. On live, if you did jerky stuff you could at least be shunned by the server community through shaming and rejection from guilds. Here that isn't an issue for jerky people as folks have a dozen max lvl alts that they could care less about injuring a reputation.

The solution? Either an artificial solution created by the devs to compensate for the situation or you need to basically just accept that this is the way the server is. They have said velious is soon, that will help a bit. They have said they have no plans to hit the reset button or start a new blue server. So...my advice is just to accept it for what it is. This is, with all the issues, still BY FAR the best place to play classic EQ.

It also isn't all about the farmers either. You bought that epic MQ? You bought that red scale to finish your epic? ETC. You are just as much a part of the problem (and a recipient of the benefits) on the server.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here that isn't an issue for jerky people as folks have a dozen max lvl alts that they could care less about injuring a reputation.

or they just join TMO where the asshattery is praised and earns them DKP

[rubinoff]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

10 pages and nobody just outright told this guy that the gms will not enforce a RF rotation and a player rotation for RF is less likely than a luclin release? You guys gotta stop misrepresenting this server, you can't shave every day AND get ahead on this box.