Shaman race debate

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Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using canni 3 (and assuming the 100 to 47 value on wiki is accurate), at 59 a standing ogre gets ~34 mana per minute while a standing troll gets ~67 mana per minute. If you're missing a lot of med ticks because you're scrambling to keep everything rooted/dotted or you're busy positioning, this is a ridiculous difference. It's a 47 mana per minute difference if you're hitting every med tick.

You're missing the point. Even if, by some miracle, you're not getting hit by anything while you break this tough camp, you're still only getting enough mana for one more slow every 5-6 minutes.

However, it is much more likely you're getting bashed and eating several extra rounds of melee while trying to get off a root or slow, negating the regen bonus entirely and actually ending up with less hp than if you had been an ogre.

Yes, we all know shamans are 'op' and any race will be good at this sort of stuff, but all other things equal, an ogre has a clear advantage at doing tougher stuff. If you're choosing a shaman race and don't care about min/maxing, pick whichever one you prefer the models for. If you are min/maxing, pick ogre.