item transfers

[PDX0621]

It really sucks, with the whole RMT debacle, that item transfers have become increasingly hard to come by. I myself have struggled lately finding A.) People willing to help, and B.) People I trust. Thankfully my DAP guildies have been stand up individuals and have been able to lend a hand.

Just tossing it out there, not just as a plug for myself, but I do offer item transferring service. If I'm in the same zone as you or if you're in the same zone as a druid port, I generally don't charge. If you want me to haul your bags of random gear across the globe to deliver to your alt in some far away place, yeah, there'll be a "convenience" fee added. I've been entrusted on a few occasions to deliver 15-30k + worth of items, and have never failed to deliver. I assure you I'm more nervous to give your items to you than you are to receive them. Anywho, if you need a hand with transfers, please look up Bhear in game. If I can, I'll give you a hand. You may have to agree to my non RMT related disclosure speech, but it certainly beats the alternative.

[sulpher01]

Originally Posted by xarzzardorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did that spent plat go up in smoke towards hookers and blow?

lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!

[Eunomia]

Originally Posted by sulpher01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!

You know when you get a really good deal in EC? Sometimes...it might be someone trying to unload something really fast and not concerned about getting the most plat.

You know when someone buys your stuff for a ridiculously high price and you're shocked because you only listed it high so you could barter for the real price you wanted?

That is what people do with plat they didn't earn. It poofs into the community.

I'd have to trust this guy to do the right thing by repaying the petitioner to the petitioner's satisfaction, releasing the account to do so. (I don't have the ability to remove items off of the account, and GMs don't do it very often, if ever) I made a judgement call that was not going to be possible in this case. I have had success many times in resolving similar situations. It was not going to be possible in this case. I truly am sorry I couldn't, and I did express that to the petitioner.

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

name dropped you as his *friend*.

I am everyone's friend.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by sulpher01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol that was my thought... poof its spent it must be gone!

This is a good point. If it can be proven via logs (or otherwise corroborated as done by Eunomia here) that the bugger did indeed thieve something, stuff on that account with a roughly equivalent fmv ought to be due the victim as restitution prior to banning the offending account. Now if they were plvl'd, not much can be done about that :/ Each time you implement something like this, you create potential loopholes for RMT exploitation.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Eunomia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know when you get a really good deal in EC? Sometimes...it might be someone trying to unload something really fast and not concerned about getting the most plat.

You know when someone buys your stuff for a ridiculously high price and you're shocked because you only listed it high so you could barter for the real price you wanted?

That is what people do with plat they didn't earn. It poofs into the community.

I'd have to trust this guy to do the right thing by repaying the petitioner to the petitioner's satisfaction, releasing the account to do so. (I don't have the ability to remove items off of the account, and GMs don't do it very often, if ever) I made a judgement call that was not going to be possible in this case. I have had success many times in resolving similar situations. It was not going to be possible in this case. I truly am sorry I couldn't, and I did express that to the petitioner.



I am everyone's friend.

Ohhhh that makes sense. If GM's can't move items from offending accounts (which could create all kinds of other potential problems if possible) then there is no solution but to ban the fellow :/ and suck it up and resolve to never let it happen to you again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[tristantio]

I think the problem is actually that MQ's/puppet strings can be petitioned at all if they go awry.

Isn't there a stickied post in EC forum (or used to be) saying item transfers/trading items is at your own risk?

I do not agree there should be any risk associated with transferring for strangers though (heck, even high level "reputable" people associated with RMT could therefore stain your account if you did a transfer?)

Why is a transfer any different than having unknowingly bought the item off them for plat as far as stains on account are concerned?

The real issue is that we're still waiting on my bug report regarding tradeskill containers and storing items (in classic you could store an item in a trade container like a town forge until server reset - here when you close the container the item returns to your cursor).

Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).

[Ezalor]

you got jipped, suck it up and move on

it was your own stupidity and impatience that lead you to take the risk of transferring with a level 8 stranger.

the threat of getting banned is actually a really good incentive not to steal someone's shit in a transfer. in this case, you stupidly trusted a low-level newbie that would happily eat a ban on a level 8 character for 10k in gear. next time, don't be an idiot and find a high level. i'm not gonna eat a ban on my level 60 over 10k, and i guarantee no one else would either.

[Ebener]

Most <Dial A Port> members are willing to do item transfers for a fee. Find a member whose services you've used before and are willing to trust. Remember to "/w dial all" for all your porting/evac/transferring needs.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you got jipped, suck it up and move on

it was your own stupidity and impatience that lead you to take the risk of transferring with a level 8 stranger.

the threat of getting banned is actually a really good incentive not to steal someone's shit in a transfer. in this case, you stupidly trusted a low-level newbie that would happily eat a ban on a level 8 character for 10k in gear. next time, don't be an idiot and find a high level. i'm not gonna eat a ban on my level 60 over 10k, and i guarantee no one else would either.

Guildtag means a lot. I've done transfers for strangers on my L5 tunnel rat, I'm certain the reason these people decided to risk using me is because they saw him in the tunnel often and he wears my main's guildtag (Bregan D'Aerth). Long-time members of well known raid guilds just aren't gonna rip you off like that, they have far too much to lose and even the ones that are shady enough to rip you off won't because they know they'll get hurt worse. If you don't have personal connections to do a transfer safely, show a little patience and take the time to learn the names of some long-time traders who wear their guildtags openly. It won't get your transfer done in the next 5 minutes, but it sure beats petitioning some scumsucker after you get burned only to learn that you're shit-outa-luck.

[mr_jon3s]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real issue is that we're still waiting on my bug report regarding tradeskill containers and storing items (in classic you could store an item in a trade container like a town forge until server reset - here when you close the container the item returns to your cursor).

Item transferring would be simple if we could find obscure forges/etc. to drop the item in and get it out with a different toon (barring a full server crash).

I remember doing this as a noob. I would check all the Tradeskill containers after finding a brick of ore and selling it to merchant.