Wizard vs Magician epic - Page 2

azeth · #11 03-31-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So right now only this one guild has people with the mage epic?

There are probably 6 guilds that have Innoruuk kills since 12/31/14.

Level up, join one, ???, profit.

At the moment, I'd say the Wizard epic is harder to obtain due to the value of Venril Sathir's drops over Innoruuks. My understanding is that guilds would favor VS over Inny if both were up and they could choose only one.

dafier · #12 03-31-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

? the wizard epic is a free 800 point rune that you can use to manastone and/or mana robe to med up super fast, not to mention the rune itself gives +3 mana regen

hardly just a stat increase

I stand corrected. Thank you.

nuuki · #13 03-31-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are probably 6 guilds that have Innoruuk kills since 12/31/14.

Level up, join one, ???, profit.

At the moment, I'd say the Wizard epic is harder to obtain due to the value of Venril Sathir's drops over Innoruuks. My understanding is that guilds would favor VS over Inny if both were up and they could choose only one.

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

dafier · #14 03-31-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the change from Innoruuk to the mini really that big of a deal? If a guild is fighting in the plane wouldn't they just kill everything anyway?

In my opinion, yes. Well...my thought process is still thinking Live, NOT P99. Inny back in the day was a VERY tough boss. Yes, guilds could take him down but not many did. I remember Inny being left up for days at a time due to raid forces not gathering to kill him. The minis especially for epic quests were easier to kill and didn't require the overall raid power to get the item.

So, yes. It was a HUGE deal.

maskedmelon · #15 03-31-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the change from Innoruuk to the mini really that big of a deal? If a guild is fighting in the plane wouldn't they just kill everything anyway?

You would expect that to be the case, but it is not. Inny is regularly killed without clearing Hate :/

And to your other question, no not just one guild with Mage epics, but due to the raid structure that one has historically offered the best chance of obtaining it for various reasons.

It is not a hopeless endeavor though, just something you will likely need to wait quite some time for ^^

azeth · #16 03-31-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my opinion, yes. Well...my thought process is still thinking Live, NOT P99. Inny back in the day was a VERY tough boss. Yes, guilds could take him down but not many did. I remember Inny being left up for days at a time due to raid forces not gathering to kill him. The minis especially for epic quests were easier to kill and didn't require the overall raid power to get the item.

So, yes. It was a HUGE deal.

well, the major reason its a "HUGE deal" is that the mini bosses will have like a 3 day respawn. Inny has 7 with variance.

maskedmelon · #17 03-31-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

You mean availability? We'll many raid guilds will move on to Velious progression, so that may free up old world raid targets some, bit hard to say. It all depends on how much time players have ^^ Just be glad you aren't a ranger ^^

Velerin · #18 03-31-2015, 04:06 PM

After doing mage epic here and a couple times on live one piece of advice I give all new mages is to knock out some of the epic stuff while leveling.
Lots of the early mage epic is low level really rare drops and doing these at 50+ will drive you crazy. Do them while you get exp and they are much better. Najena in 20s, Sol A in high20s/30s (power of fire), SK in 30s and always keep an eye out for an errant Quill (stay near his roaming paths). Kill Phinney every chance you can (The water staff is also a focus for your 50+ water pets.) People here do Sky everyday so the crown is easy. Don't let anyone gouge you, since there's like thousands lying around in guild banks.
The earth staff is the bottleneck since its a rare drop off a highly contested mob.

Tiggles · #19 03-31-2015, 04:08 PM

Mage epic is easy.

Join TMO and you will get a staff eventually. Don't listen to the haters.

skootr · #20 03-31-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the wizard epic doesn't change at all in Velious like the magician one?

Wiz epic will no longer require cazic skin, there will be an NPC in fear that you hand an item to and have to kill (with assistance) post Velious epic quest changes. Still need drop from VS though so that will be the bottle neck. Right now CT skin and VS drop are the bottle necks, though a multi-quest turn in on the skin does happen every so often.