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Old 03-20-2015, 03:35 PM
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Hey there.

Seeing as I was the person who put the joint VP raids in question together, I feel like I should clear some things up.

1. The VP raids happened 100% against BDA leaderships will. At first they were hesitant of joint raiding with IB because they did not like them, so they would not 'officially' sanction the raids as having anything to do with BDAs name - whatever that means.

2. After PD and a few others were killed by the joint raid, BDA saw that they would be able to kill them alone and decided that they wanted to do a BDA only raid under their own loot council. The group of people from BDA who came with me neither wanted to ditch the IB people that had helped them learn VP and went through the harder parts of pulling and engaging with them, nor did they want to be subject to BDA loot council - as at that time we were simply randoming loot.

Designing context for old forum posts (spinning) does not become you Yendor - stick to fighting the power with personal opinions, not quoted text. I am sad though, Ive known you to be a pretty honest guy which leads me to believe you are actually serious here.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:43 PM
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I will tell you that Moose is one of the best people I have played this game with and has the toons he plays have great reputations. I think most people would go to bat for the guy. I could say that about a few former members of Enraptured as well in different raiding guilds.
I agree, I really cared for that guild Enraptured as well as the officers, Xero, Kreon and Speedbhump (RIP).

When I found out the guild was basically disbanded when I returned last year, it was upsetting to say the least, so I never really got back into playing. The best part of that guild was how it felt like we were underdogs getting better every day, and starting to be able to do things like planar raids. Now that's all gone. I'm sure a lot more happened as well - and Moose you're probably right, I don't know.

I just decided to come back about a week ago.

For me, Jag wasn't about the plat or anything, I was trying to do the right thing by not leaving the guild in the gutter when I quit in 2013. I'll just have to get over it, but by now Jag has probably belonged to TMO for longer than I played him.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:47 PM
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Losing Speedbhump (RIP) was kind of a blow to us as a guild as well as me personally. He did alot for the guild. I would be lying if I say that was not a contributing factor to the final decision.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:49 PM
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Recalling the days of that fateful VP PUG has got me thinking:

First, the Hardcore Casuals cried out for a rotation for almost 5 years, yet they barely kept it going for a year. Why? What happened ?

Second, in all the years of the rotation, was there ever any slots left open for a pick up group raid to casually slay dragons? If not, why?

Thoughts ?
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:51 PM
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I will tell you that Moose is one of the best people I have played this game with and has the toons he plays have great reputations. I think most people would go to bat for the guy. I could say that about a few former members of Enraptured as well in different raiding guilds.
good guy or not, his whole performance on the forums was high comedy as an outsider

"we are not a tmo feeder guild"

"we are not a tmo feeder guild"

"we are not a fucking tmo feeder guild"

"we are now part of tmo"
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:53 PM
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Jesus this thread turned to shit...

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Old 03-20-2015, 03:53 PM
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We wanted to try solo from the start, but we wanted to be cool about everything and let anyone that was keyed show up. So after we killed a few mobs with a full PUG raid we tried to do a BDA only thing and Sloan/IB (or the 10 people they had) turned it into a "BDA WANTS ALL THE PIXELS" when in reality we just wanted to see where we measured up as a guild to that content. We never got that chance because like I said the rest of the PUG contingent had a shit fit so we just said "fuck it" and kept doing the pug thing.

It's never been about just grab it the pixels, if it were BDA wouldn't be a thing and we would have completely changed our identity or disbanded and folded into a hardcore guild. Anything else is propaganda.
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:56 PM
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Jesus this thread turned to shit...

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Old 03-20-2015, 03:58 PM
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good guy or not, his whole performance on the forums was high comedy as an outsider

"we are not a tmo feeder guild"

"we are not a tmo feeder guild"

"we are not a fucking tmo feeder guild"

"we are now part of tmo"
I was basically with Enraptured from, not the beginning, but immediately afterwards. I know from first hand experience Enraptured wasn't built to be in TMO, hence the whole reason I gave up my toon to help out the small-ish guild. The whole TMO thing happened after I had already quit, and apparently after one of the founding officers died, which was a right after I quit.

I'm not even sure what happened to the rest of the guild, we'll have to catch up.
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Old 03-20-2015, 04:06 PM
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It's never been about just grab it the pixels, if it were BDA wouldn't be a thing and we would have completely changed our identity or disbanded and folded into a hardcore guild. Anything else is propaganda.
Lol what? Take a look at yourself now, this isnt 2013 anymore.
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