History Revised: Enraptured

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how delusional you actually are. Your assertion that:



is blatantly proved false here. BDA leadership had no problem with individual VP members joining the VP pickup groups while TMO was suspended.

"It is also awesome that they were able to work with some old IB members to take down VP bosses. This is completely acceptable and is something we are very glad to see happening."

Please tell me again how BDA members were told not to enter the zone and such? I still don't see where you're coming up with that fabrication.

There were clearly plans to raid VP as a guild. It was at the end of the window, after enough ex-VD rarespawns returned and we saw we had enough keyed players to at least make an attempt on something. What you call backpedaling, I call a re-evaluation of the keyed raid force.

Hey there.

Seeing as I was the person who put the joint VP raids in question together, I feel like I should clear some things up.

1. The VP raids happened 100% against BDA leaderships will. At first they were hesitant of joint raiding with IB because they did not like them, so they would not 'officially' sanction the raids as having anything to do with BDAs name - whatever that means.

2. After PD and a few others were killed by the joint raid, BDA saw that they would be able to kill them alone and decided that they wanted to do a BDA only raid under their own loot council. The group of people from BDA who came with me neither wanted to ditch the IB people that had helped them learn VP and went through the harder parts of pulling and engaging with them, nor did they want to be subject to BDA loot council - as at that time we were simply randoming loot.

Designing context for old forum posts (spinning) does not become you Yendor - stick to fighting the power with personal opinions, not quoted text. I am sad though, Ive known you to be a pretty honest guy which leads me to believe you are actually serious here.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey there.

Seeing as I was the person who put the joint VP raids in question together, I feel like I should clear some things up.

1. The VP raids happened 100% against BDA leaderships will. At first they were hesitant of joint raiding with IB because they did not like them, so they would not 'officially' sanction the raids as having anything to do with BDAs name - whatever that means.

2. After PD and a few others were killed by the joint raid, BDA saw that they would be able to kill them alone and decided that they wanted to do a BDA only raid under their own loot council. The group of people from BDA who came with me neither wanted to ditch the IB people that had helped them learn VP and went through the harder parts of pulling and engaging with them, nor did they want to be subject to BDA loot council - as at that time we were simply randoming loot.

Designing context for old forum posts (spinning) does not become you Yendor - stick to fighting the power with personal opinions, not quoted text. I am sad though, Ive known you to be a pretty honest guy which leads me to believe you are actually serious here.

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[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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We wanted to try solo from the start, but we wanted to be cool about everything and let anyone that was keyed show up. So after we killed a few mobs with a full PUG raid we tried to do a BDA only thing and Sloan/IB (or the 10 people they had) turned it into a "BDA WANTS ALL THE PIXELS" when in reality we just wanted to see where we measured up as a guild to that content. We never got that chance because like I said the rest of the PUG contingent had a shit fit so we just said "fuck it" and kept doing the pug thing.

It's never been about just grab it the pixels, if it were BDA wouldn't be a thing and we would have completely changed our identity or disbanded and folded into a hardcore guild. Anything else is propaganda.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's never been about just grab it the pixels, if it were BDA wouldn't be a thing and we would have completely changed our identity or disbanded and folded into a hardcore guild. Anything else is propaganda.

Lol what? Take a look at yourself now, this isnt 2013 anymore.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We wanted to try solo from the start, but we wanted to be cool about everything and let anyone that was keyed show up. So after we killed a few mobs with a full PUG raid we tried to do a BDA only thing and Sloan/IB (or the 10 people they had) turned it into a "BDA WANTS ALL THE PIXELS" when in reality we just wanted to see where we measured up as a guild to that content. We never got that chance because like I said the rest of the PUG contingent had a shit fit so we just said "fuck it" and kept doing the pug thing.

It's never been about just grab it the pixels, if it were BDA wouldn't be a thing and we would have completely changed our identity or disbanded and folded into a hardcore guild. Anything else is propaganda.

What do you mean we? YOU had nothing to do with VP, nor did YOU want to solo anything from the start. I requested that we go as BDA exclusively and none of the officers deemed that the time it would take would be worthwhile - i.e., it was turned down. I then personally got a hold of Getsome and WE organized the VP raid between the people in BDA that wanted to go and old members of IB who were still in contact. There was even a post on BDA boards saying that the guild will not be doing anything in VP and anyone who wishes to go with my 'pug' does so without the guilds consent.

06-17-2012

Originally Posted by getsome

Why so late in the week? Unless something else pops, we should be in there every night. I think Monday

Hence we were in there every night. It later turned into an open invite for the whole server. YOU and BDA leadership had nothing at all to do with it. It was only after the fact, after it took us a few days of being in there to finally kill PD and a few others, that BDA leadership determined that BDA had enough to kill PD and wanted to roll solo. Needless to say, the people who worked hard to accomplish what they did were pretty pissed off that you would just ditch the other half of them to do it yourself - regardless if it was for loot or to 'test your strength' for something you had zero intention of ever doing.

[chief]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean we? YOU had nothing to do with VP, nor did YOU want to solo anything from the start. I requested that we go as BDA exclusively and none of the officers deemed that the time it would take would be worthwhile - i.e., it was turned down. I then personally got a hold of Getsome and WE organized the VP raid between the people in BDA that wanted to go and old members of IB who were still in contact. There was even a post on BDA boards saying that the guild will not be doing anything in VP and anyone who wishes to go with my 'pug' does so without the guilds consent.

06-17-2012



Hence we were in there every night. It later turned into an open invite for the whole server. YOU and BDA leadership had nothing at all to do with it. It was only after the fact, after it took us a few days of being in there to finally kill PD and a few others, that BDA leadership determined that BDA had enough to kill PD and wanted to roll solo. Needless to say, the people who worked hard to accomplish what they did were pretty pissed off that you would just ditch the other half of them to do it yourself - regardless if it was for loot or to 'test your strength' for something you had zero intention of ever doing.

yikes chest spin team inc

[quido]

Most people have never done anything as scumfucky as Chest with this VP/Rotation shit, yet he still considers himself the good guy.

Retardation hard at work