Good strategy/RPG games people might have missed

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do they even make new turn-based RPGs? All the ones I know are old. My favorite turn-based RPG is an old SSI classic called Wizard's Crown, the forerunner of the famed gold box games. You need an emulator for it (I greatly prefer the Commodore 64 version) but it's pretty in-depth for a game that's 30 years old. Things like shields only block your front and left side, flails ignore shields, axes can break them, you can fall prone to help protect vs archers etc.

There's a new one coming out called Unsung Story that hired Yasumi Matsuno, the lead guy from Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story and other classic as fuck SRPG's.

It sounds really good and has a solid team behind it. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-the-guardians

[iruinedyourday]

classics! get yerself a turbographic 16 emulator and play some military madness!!

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then try out Warsong!

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oops saw this to late! /agree

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warsong was good yeah.

this is a HUGE list of them!!!

http://www.listal.com/list/rpg-world-tactical-rpg

daym there are so many!

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do they even make new turn-based RPGs? All the ones I know are old.

have you tried Banner Saga?

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Its got a great 2d animated style.

[FoxxHound]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thx for suggestions

To be clear, im not partcularly looking for old games, in fact newer games with fun, deep mechanics is what id be more interested about, since i probably played most games people are going to suggest (Like Phantasy star 4)

Still some stuff i havent played with, thx for suggestions!

I picked up these 10 games yesterday in the dark dungeons of the interwebs:

Crusader Kings 2
Sunless sea
Fantasy wars
Darkest Dungeon
Age of wonders 3
Dragonshard
Endless Legend
Frozen Cortex
Hand of fate

Well see where that goes

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[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you tried Banner Saga?

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Its got a great 2d animated style.

I'll be honest, I don't like jrpgs or anything anime-themed. I make exception for the classic ones I played 20 years ago but that's it.

[MrSparkle001]

I make exception for some of those old games. Warsong is interesting without being anime and that's what's important.

You guys should try Wizard's Crown:

In 1985, SSI released another party-based fantasy CRPG called Wizard's Crown, which was probably the most "hardcore" CRPG of its time. Players could create up to 8 players, and multi-class them as much as they liked (i.e., a character could be a thief/fighter/mage/cleric). Instead of "levels," characters improved their stats and skills, such as hunting, haggling, alchemy, and swimming. This skill system would show up again in modern games like Fall Out and Neverwinter Nights. Likewise, the combat system was more dynamic than anything offered up to that time. There were over 20 combat commands alone, including unusual ones like "Fall Prone," which made a character harder to hit with arrows but easier to hit with melee weapons. Like Questron and Phantasie, different situations called for different weapons. However, Wizard's Crown went a step beyond with added realism--shields only worked if the character was facing the right direction, for instance, and characters were still vulnerable to axes and flails, which could destroy or circumvent a shield, respectively. Ranged weapons were implemented, as well as an intelligent magic system. Although a major battle could last up to 40 minutes, players could also choose "quick combat," which would automatically resolve the combat in seconds. While the storyline was droll (find a wizard, kill him, and take back a crown), the extraordinary attention to character development and strategic combat made up for it. It remains one of the most complicated CRPGs and a strategist's dream.

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Even the screenshot shows the complexity. Look at Injury and Bleeding. How many RPGs used a complex injury system? Life is not hit points, it's instead a measure of how much injury and bleeding you can endure. Injury can knock you unconscious, bleeding slowly knocks you unconscious and can kill you if not treated.

It's such a good game.

[MrSparkle001]

Yeah but it's better than a lot of the games that came after, including the famed SSI gold box games. They were dumbed down to fit AD&D rules.

[MrSparkle001]

Graphics mean nothing in a good RPG. 30 years of computer RPG experience has taught me that.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll be honest, I don't like jrpgs or anything anime-themed. I make exception for the classic ones I played 20 years ago but that's it.

then Banner Saga might be jsut right for you? its not anime related at all, its definitely a western aesthetic.

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[MrSparkle001]

Forgot to edit and say that one does look interesting.