azrael has a 2nd exodus.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given up on the small crew idea. Azrael is the only guild that was ever interested in that idea, but we now understand we are alone in that ideology. Azrael has been remodeled in order to adjust and I think people will be quite please with what's to come.

It's not that Azrael is the only one interested man. But look at what it takes to get a guild off the ground here with all the trolls, guild floppers and general retards. There just aren't enough people willing to put in the time and effort to running a guild. There is also an issue of this being a 300 pop box so the zerg guild is never going to have any recruitment standards. People aren't forced to come up through the ranks in lower tier guilds where they might find they like it and stick around.

Azrael would have had a fuckin' blast on RZ in 2000, it was exactly what you guys want for this server. No huge guilds, a lot of 10-15 person PVP focused ones and raiding only got accomplished through alliances with other guilds. I wish we could have that here but the deck is stacked against it.

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not that Azrael is the only one interested man. But look at what it takes to get a guild off the ground here with all the trolls, guild floppers and general retards. There just aren't enough people willing to put in the time and effort to running a guild. There is also an issue of this being a 300 pop box so the zerg guild is never going to have any recruitment standards. People aren't forced to come up through the ranks in lower tier guilds where they might find they like it and stick around.

Azrael would have had a fuckin' blast on RZ in 2000, it was exactly what you guys want for this server. No huge guilds, a lot of 10-15 person PVP focused ones and raiding only got accomplished through alliances with other guilds. I wish we could have that here but the deck is stacked against it.

Supply and demand. The problem is you have a zerg the promises an easy ride, and far too many people that want an easy ride coming here

If the supply of warm body benches stopped then the warm body blues would stop joining the zerg.

People who come from blue to actually experience red would have no issue fighting survival, instead of being care bear warm bodies in holo.

TLDR: stop offering an easy ride zerg, people will gravitate towards smaller guilds. PVP will happen, interesting alliances will be made and broken. Etc.

[RIP The Jacka]

lots of guilds were successful without mass recruitment,

dentist
founding fathers
starwars time?
holocaust 1.0

azrael just really bad players and leadership

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by RIP The Jacka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lots of guilds were successful without mass recruitment,

dentist
founding fathers
starwars time?
holocaust 1.0

azrael just really bad players and leadership

Are any of these guilds still around ? What do you consider successful ?

[RIP The Jacka]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are any of these guilds still around ? What do you consider successful ?

by that logic do you consider azrael failing 40 times in a row, but still being a tag successful?

cool

enjoy karnors while the rest of us ice sk8n n h8n

[fred schnarf]

the only problem with azrael i ever saw was lite

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Akalakamelee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Supply and demand. The problem is you have a zerg the promises an easy ride, and far too many people that want an easy ride coming here

If the supply of warm body benches stopped then the warm body blues would stop joining the zerg.

People who come from blue to actually experience red would have no issue fighting survival, instead of being care bear warm bodies in holo.

TLDR: stop offering an easy ride zerg, people will gravitate towards smaller guilds. PVP will happen, interesting alliances will be made and broken. Etc.

So you're asking for the guild full of players who want an easy ride to stop recruiting players who both desire and enable said easy ride?

Yeah not gonna happen. Holo is not going to change, because the way they play has them satisfying their own victory conditions.

And I think you're underestimating how many people wouldn't just say "shit Holo isn't accepting new members, I'll join another guild or make my own". I think a large portion of them would just say "fuck it I won't even bother switching from blue to red".

The entire server would be a lot better if people would just stop giving a shit how other people played and just did their thing.

[Kergan]

err, I meant overestimating how many people would say

[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by RIP The Jacka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here is a list of guilds i was never in because i only joined the zerg guilds

dentist
founding fathers
starwars time?
holocaust 1.0

but let me sit here and tell you about how to contest

[HippoNipple]

Holocaust isn't zerging, just playing the game with pals that have a common goal of casually destroying the competition and neckbeards of the server with little to no effort.