bind killing scum circumventing the rules

[Sapphiay]

Brobb is one of the not greediest not corruptest player i ever met in games.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with all of that. Pretty annoyed Pokes afk'd in OoT and Holoscum took 15 kills off it last night... 0 point kills get you zero points but a kill is a kill for kill count and a death a death *shrug*

Other upside to making role/anon show level and class still however is the massive benefit to group formation. Holo succeeds because a zerg guild on a server full of /anon/role characters, Zerg gets beyond the anonymity and gets you access to LFG for half the server

Remove this and remove a large portion of the power of the zerg for newbs. I briefly attempted red dawn I think on my rogue, simple because I had dropped off box for 3 months, knew no one, and had no core player group to grind with, and needed a way past anonymity to get to in range players for xp

edit: I think it's important to ignore leader board when consider how to improve box health both pve and pvp (I say pve because if people can't level and gear they can't pvp with your leveled geared players, that simple). I think leaderboard is aftermath and is separate from server and shouldn't matter in most discussions. Let newbs find groups easier and not have to congregate in chokehold zones with griefers and it won't matter if they get leaderboard topping kills or not, the newbs won't have to go to them. It also makes ht 50+ game that much easier without being in one of the top 2-3 factions as well. It's a pretty elegant solution I think and comes from collaborating a few different ideas into one succinct solution

I don't understand what you are saying taking out /anon/roleplay will do. If you can see someones name, guild and zone it would just destroy any chance of smaller guilds surviving. Holocaust could zerg Azrael anytime they wanted. You would know exactly who was where and how many you would need for a victory. A small guild needs to able to organize, prepare, take down a group and get out. If the zerg knows where they are going by typing /who they would have no chance.

People can find groups from /ooc. They don't need to rely on /who to find people within their level range. Everyone is in a guild at level 50+ anyways and if you aren't in someone's guild 50+ you should be KoS. So knowing where people are that are KoS to you is not going to help you level up, it is just going to hurt you.

Leaderboards become relevant in game discussions when the leaderboards dictate player behavior. If people like Silvers thrive off of seeing their name in the top 20 they will take kills whenever they can no matter how cheap it is. It also makes people more likely to plug. Why wouldn't it be in the discussion? The leaderboards get all of its information through YT. You adjust YT and it changes the leaderboards. The leaderboards alter player behavior.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand what you are saying taking out /anon/roleplay will do. If you can see someones name, guild and zone it would just destroy any chance of smaller guilds surviving. Holocaust could zerg Azrael anytime they wanted. You would know exactly who was where and how many you would need for a victory. A small guild needs to able to organize, prepare, take down a group and get out. If the zerg knows where they are going by typing /who they would have no chance.

People can find groups from /ooc. They don't need to rely on /who to find people within their level range. Everyone is in a guild at level 50+ anyways and if you aren't in someone's guild 50+ you should be KoS. So knowing where people are that are KoS to you is not going to help you level up, it is just going to hurt you.

Leaderboards become relevant in game discussions when the leaderboards dictate player behavior. If people like Silvers thrive off of seeing their name in the top 20 they will take kills whenever they can no matter how cheap it is. It also makes people more likely to plug. Why wouldn't it be in the discussion? The leaderboards get all of its information through YT. You adjust YT and it changes the leaderboards. The leaderboards alter player behavior.

Leave the zone anonymous but show level and class.

Then YT shows zone.

So killing someone shows your zone and anyone can /who all You and come at you, since YT should be announcing that you are looking for PVP, essentially.

Makes the server wide message purposeful and impactful. Again, would grow both PVP and PVE slightly with ability to /who all when you need a tank.

Not everyone pays attention to ooc as an LFG tool, especially when it's used as the global troll and trade channel, makes it tough to use for anything else usually.

I hear gyno ninjad a shawl, for example. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[dontbanpls]

Thank goodness bodybagger finally showed up in this community so he could type long winded opinions on the forum. Never seen this kind of poster before but now that he is here everything is going to be different

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Leave the zone anonymous but show level and class.

Then YT shows zone.

So killing someone shows your zone and anyone can /who all You and come at you, since YT should be announcing that you are looking for PVP, essentially.

Makes the server wide message purposeful and impactful. Again, would grow both PVP and PVE slightly with ability to /who all when you need a tank.

Not everyone pays attention to ooc as an LFG tool, especially when it's used as the global troll and trade channel, makes it tough to use for anything else usually.

I hear gyno ninjad a shawl, for example. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People already know the levels of people just by knowing the community or zone the fight happened in. I don't think much would change if you could see someone's level/class with /who. It would help gankers scan zones quicker since they would know if someone was in range right away. It would help with leaderboards since Jeremy could assign different points for kills depending on level.

I don't see how it would change any 50+ dynamic. If anything it might help a few people find groups sub 50 if they are someone who just really didn't like to read /ooc..... but if someone is looking for a group and not utilizing /ooc they are probably retarded and you don't want to group with them anyways.

[Bodybagger]

It would mostly promote more pvp, and add dimension to leaderboard with levels as stated, grouping side effects would be minimal but possible.

And yes people 50+ know the levels like I said, that's why it helps lower levels in that sense but not 50+

all in all no real negative side effect, and several positive side effects of varying degrees. Beats current YT and LB system which promotes glory to rogues and wizards and twink griefers *shrug* I also like the guild tag only you mentioned, like I said, save for the afk kill farming and other problems inherent with that

[Hiyodori]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can't imagine how much crap this guy must have been talking:

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I don't normally post on the message board but I guess since I was referred to I might as well explain the situation. Pokesomemot seems like a cool guy and he didn't talk any shit at all. He didn't use any bad language and seems like a nice guy. I have no beef with him but after killing him in OoT, I found his bind point and requested that he call LNS followed by camping or leaving the zone by boat for an hour. He refused so I killed him because I wanted to farm in OoT in peace. I then asked him to call LNS each time before proceeding to kill him until he plugged. I then went back to farming until he came back (as I knew he would to kill me, perfectly legit) and I searched the islands and killed him again. At which point I requested he call LNS, he refused to do so resulting in his death and a following request in him calling LNS, etc. He plugged again and came back and I searched the islands again and killed him again after he got his corpse with pet up, etc. So, rinse and repeat and he finally plugged out. Look at the separation of time and it supports the story (8:50~8:24) was his first plug and (8:24~8:14) was his second plug time.

All that in a nutshell, I wanted to farm without having him try to kill me at every turn and he was bound in the zone. He cannot use his bind point as an excuse to not be killed if he doesn't call LNS. LNS is a good rule used to prevent grief. On each occasion, I offered him the chance to call LNS before engaging. (I do have screenshots of it as well if anyone is that interested)

I hope that clears things up. Anyways, referring to a situation that you are unclear of the specifics isn't a great way to argue whatever point you were trying to get across.

Happy hunting,

Hiyodori

[LostCause]

lotta mad up in this thread

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Hiyodori [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't normally post on the message board but I guess since I was referred to I might as well explain the situation. Pokesomemot seems like a cool guy and he didn't talk any shit at all. He didn't use any bad language and seems like a nice guy. I have no beef with him but after killing him in OoT, I found his bind point and requested that he call LNS followed by camping or leaving the zone by boat for an hour. He refused so I killed him because I wanted to farm in OoT in peace. I then asked him to call LNS each time before proceeding to kill him until he plugged. I then went back to farming until he came back (as I knew he would to kill me, perfectly legit) and I searched the islands and killed him again. At which point I requested he call LNS, he refused to do so resulting in his death and a following request in him calling LNS, etc. He plugged again and came back and I searched the islands again and killed him again after he got his corpse with pet up, etc. So, rinse and repeat and he finally plugged out. Look at the separation of time and it supports the story (8:50~8:24) was his first plug and (8:24~8:14) was his second plug time.

All that in a nutshell, I wanted to farm without having him try to kill me at every turn and he was bound in the zone. He cannot use his bind point as an excuse to not be killed if he doesn't call LNS. LNS is a good rule used to prevent grief. On each occasion, I offered him the chance to call LNS before engaging. (I do have screenshots of it as well if anyone is that interested)

I hope that clears things up. Anyways, referring to a situation that you are unclear of the specifics isn't a great way to argue whatever point you were trying to get across.

Happy hunting,

Hiyodori

So... it's not bind camping if he refuses to call LnS? Did you kill him repeatedly naked at his bind?

Coz you scurred to lvl/grind in same zone with any other player? Sounds like a longwinded explanation for a short epeen. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I then went back to farming until he came back (as I knew he would to kill me, perfectly legit) and I searched the islands and killed him again" reads a lot more like "I killed him til he plugged, then as soon as he logged in I killed him some more until he plugged again". I didn't ask him about the incident but I may have to now since you're claiming he attacked you... unless you want to amend your story before I see if he corroborates?

I don't care if you bind camped him... I think less of you for it as a man, but it's your right to do so. We don't care. We don't cry LnS to appease you or give you any power. PVP death means nothing. Your YT is powerless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mol...tailpage#t=117

[Edgat]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your YT is powerless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mol...tailpage#t=117

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBGWtVOKTkM