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Old 02-02-2015, 11:50 AM
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:53 AM
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I can see it now... BDA gets 2 strikes on a mob over the next year then decides to change the rules again to stop themselves getting shut out.

Pure scummery, what a sinister set of people making this proposal. Dark clouds are gathering for the blue raid scene at this rate.

What's BDA's issue at the moment? Too many guilds in Class R? Well hey, get your VP keyed folks and graduate along with Taken's VP keyed folks.

Plenty of room for a 3rd Class C guild. Why sit on VP keys that you can't/won't use? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...ooorrrr, just leave things as they are and we can all get along like great chums.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:55 AM
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TMO/IB can't kill Class R mobs, with or without a rotation, ever. Unless the Class R mob doesn't die within 6 hours, which will never happen.
If people can't play nice and share their toys I'd declare open season myself.

Always thought that the R in Class R stood for rotate or rotation.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:56 AM
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No you're wrong - it stands for Retard. It was named after the King of Class R
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:59 AM
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No you're wrong - it stands for Retard. It was named after the King of Class R
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:59 AM
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I can truly say that even though I have great disdain for chest and BDA. I think dissolving the Class R rotation will be the best thing for the server, Class C in particular.

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

All this hand holding take turns mob rotation bullshit does not cultivate a proper raid scene where guilds shit on each other on the regular.

See, the problem with the rotation is that it rewards bad no-effort players with loot. 90% of Class R players are really bad and would never attempt to compete for mobs if it was not a sure thing. The rotation rewards this behaviour further harming the server.

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Every guild gets a fair share of content so they have no reason to incentivise good players and competition and thus the server stagnates.

Now, What we are seeing with BDA and Taken is that since these guilds contain a relatively higher number of better players they are starting to desire a larger share of the loot compared to the bad players in other guilds. This is a perfectly healthy response to a player who was starved for loot for 5 years and is now starting to get items.

Once BDA and Taken dissolve the rotation and take 90% of all Class R mobs it will create a "loot whore" funnel system. This will incentivise bad players to get better and it will incentivise good Class R players to join a Class C guild because with every mob being FFA thee differences between Class R and C will be minimal.

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This funnel system will effectively accomplish the staff's desire for guilds to "rank up" eventually to the competitive class.


This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:03 PM
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I tried red once.

Wanted level 8 on my mage. But the level 12 fungi, epic MQ, fully geared, clickied, Kiva potted, rogue didnt allow it.

He must have wanted my 4 copper...
You might eat shit a few times in the beginning, but thats sort of the application process in a way.


Im about lvl 20 now on my rogue and i havent been killed by a twink yet. Had a few attack me, but i either got away or made them zone ( gear isnt everything in PVP)
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:14 PM
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I can truly say that even though I have great disdain for chest and BDA. I think dissolving the Class R rotation will be the best thing for the server, Class C in particular.

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

All this hand holding take turns mob rotation bullshit does not cultivate a proper raid scene where guilds shit on each other on the regular.

See, the problem with the rotation is that it rewards bad no-effort players with loot. 90% of Class R players are really bad and would never attempt to compete for mobs if it was not a sure thing. The rotation rewards this behaviour further harming the server.

Note.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every guild gets a fair share of content so they have no reason to incentivise good players and competition and thus the server stagnates.

Now, What we are seeing with BDA and Taken is that since these guilds contain a relatively higher number of better players they are starting to desire a larger share of the loot compared to the bad players in other guilds. This is a perfectly healthy response to a player who was starved for loot for 5 years and is now starting to get items.

Once BDA and Taken dissolve the rotation and take 90% of all Class R mobs it will create a "loot whore" funnel system. This will incentivise bad players to get better and it will incentivise good Class R players to join a Class C guild because with every mob being FFA thee differences between Class R and C will be minimal.

Note.

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This funnel system will effectively accomplish the staff's desire for guilds to "rank up" eventually to the competitive class.


This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:17 PM
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This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.
Nothing to do with the thought of Class C having to compete with a 3rd set of FTE'ers then.

Have BDA really been loot starved over the past 5 years?
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Old 02-02-2015, 12:20 PM
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The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.
Who the hell actually belives this lol? You actually play this unchallenging game to be better at it then other players? Wouldnt you want to play other games that offer more of a challenge ampungst the player?
Im pretty sure not even 1% of the player base is playing this game for the sole purpose to be better at classic eq then someone. We are here for the joy of the old school feel. While it is fun to have end game gear and be better in slot then others, by vigorously earning through competition, no one can say the reason i log in is to be the best there ever was.
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