Open letter to Chest (BDA) and Taken/Divinity - come on back

[HethGnome]

Class R isn't going anywhere for the moment is it? It's just going to turn into an FTE sockfest shitshow for a while. Pretty sure GM staff is ok with FFA.

[Tiggles]

I can truly say that even though I have great disdain for chest and BDA. I think dissolving the Class R rotation will be the best thing for the server, Class C in particular.

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

All this hand holding take turns mob rotation bullshit does not cultivate a proper raid scene where guilds shit on each other on the regular.

See, the problem with the rotation is that it rewards bad no-effort players with loot. 90% of Class R players are really bad and would never attempt to compete for mobs if it was not a sure thing. The rotation rewards this behaviour further harming the server.

Note.

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Every guild gets a fair share of content so they have no reason to incentivise good players and competition and thus the server stagnates.

Now, What we are seeing with BDA and Taken is that since these guilds contain a relatively higher number of better players they are starting to desire a larger share of the loot compared to the bad players in other guilds. This is a perfectly healthy response to a player who was starved for loot for 5 years and is now starting to get items.

Once BDA and Taken dissolve the rotation and take 90% of all Class R mobs it will create a "loot whore" funnel system. This will incentivise bad players to get better and it will incentivise good Class R players to join a Class C guild because with every mob being FFA thee differences between Class R and C will be minimal.

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This funnel system will effectively accomplish the staff's desire for guilds to "rank up" eventually to the competitive class.


This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can truly say that even though I have great disdain for chest and BDA. I think dissolving the Class R rotation will be the best thing for the server, Class C in particular.

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

All this hand holding take turns mob rotation bullshit does not cultivate a proper raid scene where guilds shit on each other on the regular.

See, the problem with the rotation is that it rewards bad no-effort players with loot. 90% of Class R players are really bad and would never attempt to compete for mobs if it was not a sure thing. The rotation rewards this behaviour further harming the server.

Note.

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Every guild gets a fair share of content so they have no reason to incentivise good players and competition and thus the server stagnates.

Now, What we are seeing with BDA and Taken is that since these guilds contain a relatively higher number of better players they are starting to desire a larger share of the loot compared to the bad players in other guilds. This is a perfectly healthy response to a player who was starved for loot for 5 years and is now starting to get items.

Once BDA and Taken dissolve the rotation and take 90% of all Class R mobs it will create a "loot whore" funnel system. This will incentivise bad players to get better and it will incentivise good Class R players to join a Class C guild because with every mob being FFA thee differences between Class R and C will be minimal.

Note.

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This funnel system will effectively accomplish the staff's desire for guilds to "rank up" eventually to the competitive class.


This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.

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[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.

Nothing to do with the thought of Class C having to compete with a 3rd set of FTE'ers then.

Have BDA really been loot starved over the past 5 years?

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing to do with the thought of Class C having to compete with a 3rd set of FTE'ers then.

Have BDA really been loot starved over the past 5 years?

We doubt that the "Third Guild" scenario will actually take place. While it would not be an entirely unwelcome outcome we know that the leadership of BDA and Taken and most other guilds are usually the biggest offenders when it comes to being a "Low Effort Raider" or a LFR.

LFRs like Chest and who ever runs A-Team this week actually have a good grasp on the dynamics of the server and their personal success relies on the mass of bad players in their respective guilds thinking they are actually a competent player.

If they moved their guilds upto Class C the membership would immediately see the leaderships vast shortcomings and would migrate to another guild with in months.

Personally, I believe that the leadership of BDA and Taken are dissolving this rotation not for a desire for more loots personally but because if they do not increase the intake of items the core of good players in the guild will start to look elsewhere.

If Chest could surrounded himself with bad players and still kill Trakanon once a month he would. He embraces mediocrity and complacency shuns endeavour and aptitude but he knows that if he does not keep them happy he will be in the same boat as Kittens who say Meow.

He truly is becoming the thing he hates the most.

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

Who the hell actually belives this lol? You actually play this unchallenging game to be better at it then other players? Wouldnt you want to play other games that offer more of a challenge ampungst the player?
Im pretty sure not even 1% of the player base is playing this game for the sole purpose to be better at classic eq then someone. We are here for the joy of the old school feel. While it is fun to have end game gear and be better in slot then others, by vigorously earning through competition, no one can say the reason i log in is to be the best there ever was.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jfertal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who the hell actually belives this lol? You actually play this unchallenging game to be better at it then other players? Wouldnt you want to play other games that offer more of a challenge ampungst the player?
Im pretty sure not even 1% of the player base is playing this game for the sole purpose to be better at classic eq then someone. We are here for the joy of the old school feel. While it is fun to have end game gear and be better in slot then others, by vigorously earning through competition, no one can say the reason i log in is to be the best there ever was.

Did you even look at the charts?

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you even look at the charts?

While i do enjoy almost all posts by tiggles, i just couldnt sot there and agree with that one statement. Chart or no chart!

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can truly say that even though I have great disdain for chest and BDA. I think dissolving the Class R rotation will be the best thing for the server, Class C in particular.

The only reason to play EQ is to be better than other people, TMO knows this so does IB.

All this hand holding take turns mob rotation bullshit does not cultivate a proper raid scene where guilds shit on each other on the regular.

See, the problem with the rotation is that it rewards bad no-effort players with loot. 90% of Class R players are really bad and would never attempt to compete for mobs if it was not a sure thing. The rotation rewards this behaviour further harming the server.

Note.

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Every guild gets a fair share of content so they have no reason to incentivise good players and competition and thus the server stagnates.

Now, What we are seeing with BDA and Taken is that since these guilds contain a relatively higher number of better players they are starting to desire a larger share of the loot compared to the bad players in other guilds. This is a perfectly healthy response to a player who was starved for loot for 5 years and is now starting to get items.

Once BDA and Taken dissolve the rotation and take 90% of all Class R mobs it will create a "loot whore" funnel system. This will incentivise bad players to get better and it will incentivise good Class R players to join a Class C guild because with every mob being FFA thee differences between Class R and C will be minimal.

Note.

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This funnel system will effectively accomplish the staff's desire for guilds to "rank up" eventually to the competitive class.


This is why BDA and Taken have TMO's blessing in regards to this matter.

That is some quality charting right there.