Simulated Repop and Moving all characters to West Commons

[Vianna]

I mean the Class C guilds would just bind everyone at VP. All mellee would have gate pots until they used them all up. All Casters would gate to VP. You really wouldn't slow what Class C does down a bit except for making them zone one extra time. Their alts would still be bound at KC and for any mellee that needs a port that aren't bound at KC well they log right in with Wizards and Druids standing right next to them to port them.

You put all of Class C resources in one spot and you will still get out mobolized probably worse than them pre-camping their alts at places. It would be funny knowing repops moved all of the trackers out of raid target zones though.

[Pint]

also how do you deal with the stress issues that zoning hundreds of people to the same place at the same time would cause? wouldnt 300 people entering wc at once desync the zone?

[Daldaen]

I figured an opt in-opt out box would be far more tedious to code relative to the number of people in Class C and Class R guilds who wouldn't want to participate in simulated repops.

And how does it prevent you from participating once you opt out? Couldn't all these nerds just log on their Alts camped in VP opt out and still participate anyways?

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean the Class C guilds would just bind everyone at VP. All mellee would have gate pots until they used them all up. All Casters would gate to VP. You really wouldn't slow what Class C does down a bit except for making them zone one extra time. Their alts would still be bound at KC and for any mellee that needs a port that aren't bound at KC well they log right in with Wizards and Druids standing right next to them to port them.

You put all of Class C resources in one spot and you will still get out mobolized probably worse than them pre-camping their alts at places. It would be funny knowing repops moved all of the trackers out of raid target zones though.

none of us are really concerned with what class C will do in these events bc if we wanted to be in vp we would be in class C. its more about eliminating the FFA issues atm and making world targets a little more exciting.

[maskedmelon]

How about giving all raid mobs a new ability: Neckbeardbane, basically instant death touch to any who join aggro list. Then, when said mob spawns, a merchant spawns in WC selling Safety Razors with zone restricted worn effect: No Sock Here, granting immunity to Neckbeardbane in the zone in which the raid mob has just spawned. All zone related Safety Razors would poof upon mobs death and or be no rent. Thoughts?

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

none of us are really concerned with what class C will do in these events bc if we wanted to be in vp we would be in class C. its more about eliminating the FFA issues atm and making world targets a little more exciting.

Which as I just explained this wouldn't slow Class C down a bit. Which means they would still largely get what they wanted outside of VP on repops as well. They just have more resources. So if you want to make them more exciting for everyone you have to find a system that eliminates their resources.

[jake505]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I figured an opt in-opt out box would be far more tedious to code relative to the number of people in Class C and Class R guilds who wouldn't want to participate in simulated repops.

And how does it prevent you from participating once you opt out? Couldn't all these nerds just log on their Alts camped in VP opt out and still participate anyways?

You force the same dialog when they log in an alt. You click yes you get a buff that allows you to participate and port. Everyone is hung up on the implementation details which aren't difficult.

If you don't want folks to gate or potion or cap after they click yes to participate again it's just an implementation detail.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Immediately disband because you may be inconvenienced maybe 2-4 times a month assuming you are online when they occur? Seems a bit extreme but okay.

this isnt really an extreme stance at all. the R class is supposed to be about a different play style and now youre warping that play style to fit how you want the raid scene to be, there is no reason danth shouldnt be able to play the game the way he wants and be in the guild he wants to be in. i feel like the guilds with higher expectations on attendance are completely disregarding the guilds who dont feel like attendance should be a req for membership.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which as I just explained this wouldn't slow Class C down a bit. Which means they would still largely get what they wanted outside of VP on repops as well. They just have more resources. So if you want to make them more exciting for everyone you have to find a system that eliminates their resources.

i think youre overstating class C's ability to take vp and ffa targets simultaneously, i dont think theyve had the ability to do this in a long time.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by jake505 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You force the same dialog when they log in an alt. You click yes you get a buff that allows you to participate and port. The implementation isn't difficult.

This could be circumvented by keeping Alts unguided and then inviting after target has popped, or just not inviting at all. Would require considerable effort to police unless applied to all who are in and/or enter the zone at which point you are affecting people who are not necessarily interested in participating.