Simulated Repop and Moving all characters to West Commons

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raiding in asgard is 100% optional, we have people that choose to continue playing as they wish during every raid/mobilization call. i always assumed that most other guilds had similarly minded players within them. without this being an opt in/out option it seems like a bad idea.

We have lots of optional stuff in BDA but repops are absolutely mandatory. If someone doesn't want to help with repop kills then they better log out and disappear. In my opinion, it's so grimy to put yourself in front of your guild which is what you're doing when you'd rather sit at a cash camp instead of helping your guild.

[jake505]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raiding in asgard is 100% optional, we have people that choose to continue playing as they wish during every raid/mobilization call. i always assumed that most other guilds had similarly minded players within them. without this being an opt in/out option it seems like a bad idea.

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. My wife and I are in a "class R" guild and we completely ignore repops when they happen. We raid once in a blue moon but it certainly isn't our main focus on playing the game....if it was we'd be in a "class C" guild. The proposed change to move characters like-it-or-not would cause us to immediately disband from our guild which we're otherwise perfectly satisfied with.

It could easily be opt-in/out at a per character level in a guild. If you are in an R or C guild you are given a rezz dialog box "Yes"/"No" to participate in Encounter/Rumble. If you click "No" nothing happens, if you click "Yes" you are randomly ported and marked with a BUFF that prevents you from being banished from the given encounter (Naggy style).

You present this dialog box to all online members in an R/C guild, and everyone who logs in within an hour of repop.

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[Juryiel]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raiding in asgard is 100% optional, we have people that choose to continue playing as they wish during every raid/mobilization call. i always assumed that most other guilds had similarly minded players within them. without this being an opt in/out option it seems like a bad idea.

I think these are the wrong things to spend time arguing. Implementation can be in such a way to where being teleported is optional, but opting not to be teleported means you are not allowed to engage the raid mob. The only question is whether people would support the teleporting idea for those who DO want to participate on said raid mob.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have lots of optional stuff in BDA but repops are absolutely mandatory. If someone doesn't want to help with repop kills then they better log out and disappear. In my opinion, it's so grimy to put yourself in front of your guild which is what you're doing when you'd rather sit at a cash camp instead of helping your guild.

You gotta remember Asgard has their TMO commitments to attend to first.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people are getting hung up on it not being classic.

Of course it's not classic.

I typed that in the twitch chat amidst a myriad of other non classic suggestions. It's hard.. to make a classic raid scene work. How it's currently working with R/C is better than many previous rulesets.

Nilbog, just remember you will never get a consensus here because everyone will bust out their calculators and figure out how many mobs they will add or subtract from their tally and vote accordingly. Most of the people that are complaining here are horrified at not being able to win by facerolling their keyboards just because they poopsock. So fuck it, do whatever you think it takes to make a more fun raid scene, whether its rumbles w/ports, the nilbog miniraid plan, or whatever else you can think up.

Personally I am fine with straight classic mechanics, i.e. no variance. If we aren't going to have classic mechanics, we should at least go for classic feel. The current raid scene and its poopsocking/camped out accounts feel about 0% classic to me. Logging on and mobilizing? That feels way, way more classic, not to mention fun. A guild based opt-in would work fine IMO. A-Team gets ported; Kittens do not. If you don't like your guild's stance on rumbles, join another guild.

Joyelle, I can assure you that all of this stuff is trivial to code up in comparison to mob pathing or network updates. This here is real freshman CS stuff: if X, then Y.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

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[Pint]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have lots of optional stuff in BDA but repops are absolutely mandatory. If someone doesn't want to help with repop kills then they better log out and disappear. In my opinion, it's so grimy to put yourself in front of your guild which is what you're doing when you'd rather sit at a cash camp instead of helping your guild.

different strokes i guess, we try to keep it pretty casual at asgard. req for dragon loot is 100 lifetime dkp and 20% ra over 2 months. im sure you guys still think were feeding the zerg over here but in reality were just a small end guild of ppl who think its cool that we can kill dragons now.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. My wife and I are in a "class R" guild and we completely ignore repops when they happen. We raid once in a blue moon but it certainly isn't our main focus on playing the game....if it was we'd be in a "class C" guild. The proposed change to move characters like-it-or-not would cause us to immediately disband from our guild which we're otherwise perfectly satisfied with.

Danth

Immediately disband because you may be inconvenienced maybe 2-4 times a month assuming you are online when they occur? Seems a bit extreme but okay.

The problem with making it optional is what's to stop people from hitting no and participating anyways? Also what about all the camped out people specifically Alts.

Really it is easier to just blanket send everyone to WC in a Class C and Class R guild.

If your guild wants to opt out of sim repops entirely, that could probably be arranged. No ports anywhere for your guild but you cannot kill sim Repop targets.

It's a lot easier for GMs to see what guild killed a mob and whether they opted out, than it is to see which characters participated in killing a mob and whether they opted out. Plus it would be very easy for guilds to self regulate.

[Pint]

you guys are also saying that everyone online gets an opt in box, which sounds cool to me and fixes one of my only reservations. i assume that after you batphone the server will be able to present the same opt in box to all of your members who are logging in after the initial rumble?

[Tenlaar]

It would be even easier for GMs to not even touch this terrible clusterfuck of an idea.