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[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server has flourished more in the wild wild west era than ever before, staff intervention and adding rules has only deterred population here. Especially when no one is ever told what they are banned or suspended for lol, how can you expect people to follow the rules when they never know what rules they broke.

Pop has surged because a couple of guilds started handholding people new to server and decided to take the time to explain things to new people...not only new to red but to EQ.

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I don't think that certain players chosen by GM's should be given VIP status, that to me sounds like blatant favoritism. Why should some players be allowed more influence on the server than others?

Because as guild leaders they already have more influence than anyone else. Most other people would chime in just to screw up/derail the threads.

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Why do you want to step in now when the server is thriving all on it's own. Last time i saw a Gm intervene on a raid they death touched 20 members of the wrong guild when the other guild was the LNS offenders. I think these quick and rash decisions made from shooting from the hip rule enforcement, are more of a deterrent to playing here than any of the lax rule enforcement.

It's holding it's own and that's more due to guild policies and helpfulness than anything else. The toxics have tried even harder lately to flush population and keep people from enjoying red.

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you removed training, play nice policy, and LNS rules this server would thrive even more because although some players might suffer, at-least we wouldn't have 20 people banned a month with no clue why they were banned.

Without rules against training and LnS protections the server would die. Period. Especially with Velious on the horizon and the complete chaos that would ensue.

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This isn't blue people who want to kill each other cant play nice stop treating the server like blue 2 and you will have a 3x the pop u do now. Sullon had no rules, sullon had the highest pop of any pvp server. Staff went away, server pop has never been higher. Staff should only deal with things like MQ use hacks, exploits, etc etc Anything else is a waste of staff and player's time and a deterrent to pop. And I guarantee any staff influence to ensure we all play nice on red will lower pop just as it always has.

Sullon drew ALL the toxics that couldn't play anywhere else to one server, along with a few of us that were so masochistic we had to play goodies, even. The only thing increased GM involvement will do will to be that people who have "fun" by ruining others' play will have less avenues of doing so.

What some people call "red" and "pvp" is just ruining other people's play. It has nothing to do with zone control, contesting, or anything else that is even remotely pvp.

Rallos had the right idea...not Sullon. Sullon style play is not appropriate for R99.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pop has surged because a couple of guilds started handholding people new to server and decided to take the time to explain things to new people...not only new to red but to EQ.

Because as guild leaders they already have more influence than anyone else. Most other people would chime in just to screw up/derail the threads.

It's holding it's own and that's more due to guild policies and helpfulness than anything else. The toxics have tried even harder lately to flush population and keep people from enjoying red.

Without rules against training and LnS protections the server would die. Period. Especially with Velious on the horizon and the complete chaos that would ensue.

Sullon drew ALL the toxics that couldn't play anywhere else to one server, along with a few of us that were so masochistic we had to play goodies, even. The only thing increased GM involvement will do will to be that people who have "fun" by ruining others' play will have less avenues of doing so.

What some people call "red" and "pvp" is just ruining other people's play. It has nothing to do with zone control, contesting, or anything else that is even remotely pvp.

Rallos had the right idea...not Sullon. Sullon style play is not appropriate for R99.

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[Swyft]

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So Sirken you believe that Holocaust is the cause of the server influx??

Ok answer me one question Sirken, whats the point of having a higher population on a pvp server if there is no pvp?

Is a higher population a fair trade off for a one server guild? Are you really getting more players on Red when you're are simply trading players from blue? That's like emptying the left hand to fill the right, the goal is more players to the project not to steal them from the other project.

What's the point of a red server if you simply wish to end pvp to raise the pop? Isn't that essentially making another blue server?

So what your saying is if we want to kill players we have no future here because that will make players frowny face, so you are essentially against all pvp because killing players is toxic?

Meanwhile Holocaust is responsible for more bindcamping, griefing and lns violations than 20x any other guild on server.

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Colgate&ks=6

Clearly Holo leadership is one of those non toxics your are talking about sirken can;t wait to see the wonderful impartial things you cook up for the server with those clearly healthy individuals.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Sirken you believe that Holocaust is the cause of the server influx??

Ok answer me one question Sirken, whats the point of having a higher population on a pvp server if there is no pvp?

Is a higher population a fair trade off for a one server guild? Are you really getting more players on Red when you're are simply trading players from blue? That's like emptying the left hand to fill the right, the goal is more players to the project not to steal them from the other project.

What's the point of a red server if you simply wish to end pvp to raise the pop? Isn't that essentially making another blue server?

So what your saying is if we want to kill players we have no future here because that will make players frowny face, so you are essentially against all pvp because killing players is toxic?

Meanwhile Holocaust is responsible for more bindcamping, griefing and lns violations than 20x any other guild on server.

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Colgate&ks=6

Clearly Holo leadership is one of those non toxics your are talking about sirken can;t wait to see the wonderful impartial things you cook up for the server with those clearly healthy individuals.

you cant actually be this dense. higher pop = more targets. how the hell are u having fun killing the same few dozen people over and over again? more people = more guilds = more competition = more pvp for everyone.

i think what you're actually looking for is this brand new game called, call of duty. you can log in, merk some nerds, run your mouth, and act like an overall piece of shit all you want. but thats not what we we're hosting here.

not sure where your getting the "i want to end pvp" or "if u want to kill people, you have no future here" garbage from. if anything, i have always promoted pvp, what i don't promote is training, bindcamping, and running people off the server. id rather ban 1 piece of shit and be rid of that player, than let that same piece of shit run 10 players off the server. but seeing as you played on sullon zek, i can understand how your perception of what pvp actually is could be skewed for the worst. and to be honest, i feel sorry for you because you missed out.

oh, and if HC is doing all these things, wheres the proof? just because they dont run immediately to the forums crying about being suspended and broadcasting it to everyone (the way i assume you would), doesnt mean they dont eat suspensions. when petitions come in, they are reviewed and dealt with. to be honest i see more players trying to bait folks into LNS traps to get someone banned, than i see actual LNS violations.


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[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you cant actually be this dense. higher pop = more targets. how the hell are u having fun killing the same few dozen people over and over again? more people = more guilds = more competition = more pvp for everyone.

i think what you're actually looking for is this brand new game called, call of duty. you can log in, merk some nerds, run your mouth, and act like an overall piece of shit all you want. but thats not what we we're hosting here.

not sure where your getting the "i want to end pvp" or "if u want to kill people, you have no future here" garbage from. if anything, i have always promoted pvp, what i don't promote is training, bindcamping, and running people off the server. id rather ban 1 piece of shit and be rid of that player, than let that same piece of shit run 10 players off the server. but seeing as you played on sullon zek, i can understand how your perception of what pvp actually is could be skewed for the worst. and to be honest, i feel sorry for you because you missed out.

oh, and if HC is doing all these things, wheres the proof? just because they dont run immediately to the forums crying about being suspended and broadcasting it to everyone (the way i assume you would), doesnt mean they dont eat suspensions. when petitions come in, they are reviewed and dealt with. to be honest i see more players trying to bait folks into LNS traps to get someone banned, than i see actual LNS violations.


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Looks like blatant training to me...

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=178345

How many screenshots of training u ever seen of me on any of my characters going back 2 years, NONE because I never trained.

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Colgate&ks=2

How many instances of Bindcamping you see on this list, now how many you see on mine?

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Burgerking&ks=5

I don't need to be told to stop killing someone, or wait for them to call LNS if they act descent and don't talk shit I kill them once, or at max 3 times if they talk shit and leave them be.

I have never LNS violated, dual boxed, used a cheat, RMT'd, or exploited, I'm one of the very very few that can honestly claim I'm a 100% clean whistle.

Yet to you I'm a shit talking piece of trash that is toxic and people like Colgate are shining examples of goodness? (well you said Holocaust and since he is a leader of Holocaust and the most vocal on boards yea it is correct I use him as an example for HC)

And you seriously think I'm the one who's dense? I mean I just showed you evidence of how Holocaust leadership pvp's vs how I pvp(and no you have zero charges u can throw at me from anyone going back 2 years on all my toons). Yet you say I'm a piece of shit and HC is sweet goodness LOL ok man.

Now if i want to run around and snipe people all day and talk shit about killing people in OOC GUESS WHAT THAT'S MY DAMNED CHOICE. I'm not breaking any rules and if you got a problem with me playing EQ like call of duty and sniping someone out then you need to change the rules because guess what that's always been a part of PVP on EQ, and I'm sorry if you are too blue to handle it. But before you talk about bindcamping take a good look at the player's your praising because they are a thousand times more guilty of it than I ever have been.

[Dubs]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to be honest i see more players trying to bait folks into LNS traps to get someone banned, than i see actual LNS violations.


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Can we start seeing some disciplinary action for the scumbags that do this cause you honestly can't pvp on this server without the threat of getting banned. Those that cry wolf should have to face consequences.