"Classic" feeling shifting?

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bazaar was one of the best changes possible.

When you no longer have to sit trying to sell your junk for hours, and instead can AFK overnight and sell stuff, it is fantastic.

Bazaar would bring so much low-end gear into the system. Right now, most of those 50-100 plat items I get from level 30-50 areas aren't worth my time selling. Instead I will just vendor or destroy them. Having an avenue to dump them on a trader and AFK and they get magically sold is great.

Plus you don't have to directly deal with people who make lowball offers, people who undercut you or people who resell. Stuff still happens but because you're AFK it's all out of sight and out of mind. You sell it at your listed price or you don't sell it.

Lol, you know how ridiculous this sounds, right? You're playing an MMO, the entire point is to interact with other people. I loved the idea of the bazaar, but it removed the interaction between people entirely. You can compare the bazaar to PoK and the associated books, it removed a part of the game that required you to actually talk to people and have friends.

[jolanar]

Lowballing people who just want to sell their items and get out of EC as soon as possible is one of the things that makes it so great IMO.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by jolanar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lowballing people who just want to sell their items and get out of EC as soon as possible is one of the things that makes it so great IMO.

I always give in. Cause I can't stand wasting time selling stuff. It is an amazing part of classic eq that no other game has ever been able to reproduce though. So I can't hate it too much.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, you know how ridiculous this sounds, right? You're playing an MMO, the entire point is to interact with other people. I loved the idea of the bazaar, but it removed the interaction between people entirely. You can compare the bazaar to PoK and the associated books, it removed a part of the game that required you to actually talk to people and have friends.

Yup.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, you know how ridiculous this sounds, right? You're playing an MMO, the entire point is to interact with other people. I loved the idea of the bazaar, but it removed the interaction between people entirely. You can compare the bazaar to PoK and the associated books, it removed a part of the game that required you to actually talk to people and have friends.

Of course, the reason these became necessary was the antisocial.

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Level 2 Iksars exping in East Commons. Stop it, it's ruining my immersion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Frakking traitorous bastards! FoB >>> EC.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, you know how ridiculous this sounds, right? You're playing an MMO, the entire point is to interact with other people. I loved the idea of the bazaar, but it removed the interaction between people entirely. You can compare the bazaar to PoK and the associated books, it removed a part of the game that required you to actually talk to people and have friends.

There's one thing asking someone to group, exping or questing with someone.

It's another dealing with:

"That earring for 5k, lol man that's a piece of crap, I'll give you 3k"
"Aww 5k, I really only have 2765 plat, can ya do that?"
"Hey I'll take that earring for 500" - 2 min later - "WTS earring 700"

The same people who hated PoK books are the ones who didn't play porters. I play a 60 druid and 52 wizard. I'm almost never /role on either of them. I get request for pickups in Emerald Jungle or Unrest occasionally. I politely say nope, I'm busy. Most people understand and say thanks anyways. Cool. But sometimes you get the dude offering you 30 plat for the port and complaining when you don't feel compelled to travel 15min across Norrath to port them for less than a hill Giants worth of platinum.

Also PoK book complaining is the dumbest thing in the world on this server. People REGULARLY ask for a port from WC to Lavastorm or EC to SRo. It's 2 fucking zones. Run. But heaven forbid you could click a book and travel yourself. Instead you want to inconvenience someone else, spend their mana and time and quite often not pay them for it.

Don't get me wrong, I do port people, almost never accept plat, and SoW them on their way. The general population of this server however feels entitled to these services and in the same breath they ask for a port with, they will criticizes the very features that unburdened players like myself from providing them.

I don't have any issues porting friends or guildmates. However the "interaction" you refer to from getting a port from a random guy is basically non existent. 95%+ of my ports involve these tells:

"Can I get a port from X to Y"
"Thanks"

Occasionally:

"Sorry corpse run otherwise I'd donate"
Or
"You sure you don't want plat"

Often:

"Can I get a INSERT BUFFS HERE?"

Shit isn't interacting with me at all. You interact more with the guy at the liquor store or the woman at the grocery store scanning your items.

PS - Yes, I am salty of that argument consistently being made on these boards. No one gives a shit about talking to their porter, they just want their port.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's one thing asking someone to group, exping or questing with someone.

It's another dealing with:

"That earring for 5k, lol man that's a piece of crap, I'll give you 3k"
"Aww 5k, I really only have 2765 plat, can ya do that?"
"Hey I'll take that earring for 500" - 2 min later - "WTS earring 700"

The same people who hated PoK books are the ones who didn't play porters. I play a 60 druid and 52 wizard. I'm almost never /role on either of them. I get request for pickups in Emerald Jungle or Unrest occasionally. I politely say nope, I'm busy. Most people understand and say thanks anyways. Cool. But sometimes you get the dude offering you 30 plat for the port and complaining when you don't feel compelled to travel 15min across Norrath to port them for less than a hill Giants worth of platinum.

Also PoK book complaining is the dumbest thing in the world on this server. People REGULARLY ask for a port from WC to Lavastorm or EC to SRo. It's 2 fucking zones. Run. But heaven forbid you could click a book and travel yourself. Instead you want to inconvenience someone else, spend their mana and time and quite often not pay them for it.

Don't get me wrong, I do port people, almost never accept plat, and SoW them on their way. The general population of this server however feels entitled to these services and in the same breath they ask for a port with, they will criticizes the very features that unburdened players like myself from providing them.

I don't have any issues porting friends or guildmates. However the "interaction" you refer to from getting a port from a random guy is basically non existent. 95%+ of my ports involve these tells:

"Can I get a port from X to Y"
"Thanks"

Occasionally:

"Sorry corpse run otherwise I'd donate"
Or
"You sure you don't want plat"

Often:

"Can I get a INSERT BUFFS HERE?"

Shit isn't interacting with me at all. You interact more with the guy at the liquor store or the woman at the grocery store scanning your items.

PS - Yes, I am salty of that argument consistently being made on these boards. No one gives a shit about talking to their porter, they just want their port.

I have a druid that is specifically for porting, so I understand the frustration. People bombarding you for ports, buffs, or rezzes? Shits classic, it happened back in the day, and still happening now, here. Once you start adding in "convenience" mechanics, you lose the feel of the game, imo. PoK books? Bazaar? Mercs? When do you draw the line?

When it comes to classic EQ, I'm either all in, or not at all.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a druid that is specifically for porting, so I understand the frustration. People bombarding you for ports, buffs, or rezzes? Shits classic, it happened back in the day, and still happening now, here. Once you start adding in "convenience" mechanics, you lose the feel of the game, imo. PoK books? Bazaar? Mercs? When do you draw the line?

When it comes to classic EQ, I'm either all in, or not at all.

That's a fine position to have.

I just tire of the people who complain that PoK books made the world smaller, they reduced interaction with players and yet on this server expect me to port them to a zone 2 zones away, sow them and buff them. Especially if these are /role or /Anon people who have 0 problem hiding their class and never making themselves available to requests for assistance/interacting with other players. Yet will always send me requests for ports buffs or PLs.

PoP was the pinnacle of EQ. If there were a solid PoP locked server Id be there in a heartbeat. It makes me very sad that closed down Al'Kabor still. Would've easily paid a Strommhammer level subscription to play on that server even though it had a single patch and almost no support for the past year of its existence.

[Taminy]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just tire of the people who complain that PoK books made the world smaller, they reduced interaction with players and yet on this server expect me to port them to a zone 2 zones away, sow them and buff them. Especially if these are /role or /Anon people who have 0 problem hiding their class and never making themselves available to requests for assistance/interacting with other players. Yet will always send me requests for ports buffs or PLs.

I'm utterly anti PoK books and I never bug druids or wizards for ports with /tell unless they are advertising their services or in dial a port. I always just OOC paying 100 plat for a port or bug my guild. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some reason I get annoyed when people say "donating for buffs" or "donating for port or res". Donating what? 2 copper? 1,000 plat? Maybe a dick move but I'll usually buff people for free on my shaman if they ask (as long as they don't use stupid abbreviations like plz) or buff them if they offer a specific amount, but if they say donating - never.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Taminy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm utterly anti PoK books and I never bug druids or wizards for ports with /tell unless they are advertising their services or in dial a port. I always just OOC paying 100 plat for a port or bug my guild. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some reason I get annoyed when people say "donating for buffs" or "donating for port or res". Donating what? 2 copper? 1,000 plat? Maybe a dick move but I'll usually buff people for free on my shaman if they ask (as long as they don't use stupid abbreviations like plz) or buff them if they offer a specific amount, but if they say donating - never.

You seem like a really cool person to hangout with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]