All this MQ flying around

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing gets cock blocked anymore except for Ragefire. Thank the people that buy or sell cleric MQs. If people stopped buying them, they would stop selling them.

The other popularly sold epic MQs (shaman, monk, rogue) don't really experience a cock block by others farming them.

It is easier now more than ever to get epics yourself. Every guild on the server that can be killing things is getting access to them to do so.

I hated doing Ragefire for my cleric, had TMO/FE/etc scouts at the time looking in as I stood there with a bunch of people camped out on a batphone...wouldn't ever want to do it again on a server wipe etc.

...true enough Argh, the buyers are to blame, but they'd always be for sale - just cheaper if the demand wasn't there :/

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think there is an unfortunate cycle of "raid scene requires 500 toons camped everywhere" + "kunark out for years" -> huge demand for alts. This is satisfied by the Bard/Chardok AOE factory which pumps out hundreds of toons who then need epic MQs because people don't want to legitimately start from scratch again.

Solution: nerf AOE spells to give a chance to LD if they land on more than 30-40 mobs.

No, friend.

[Fael]

Make chardok a no csr zone. Problem solved. And fun times.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make chardok a no csr zone. Problem solved. And fun times.

I second this motion.

[sox7d]

I find this Norrath ecosystem analysis very interesting.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh to suggest it's a bug is a stretch.

It was just poorly thought out quest handling.

Something that was never ever changed on live. You can still get on 15 years later and MQ a Rogue Epic.

The only thing they did was change it so that when they started getting more sophisticated quests there were hidden flag checks starting in PoP.

To deviate from this would be ultimate CustomQuest.

That being said someone selling their 50th Epic MQ in a few months time is a problem. Let other people do their epics or a random few sell an epic MQ. Don't be a Calabee. We all know how that ends up (you have to be Canadian and French :/.)

That's exactly the point though - it wasn't well thought out (like a lot of things EQ). However these 'mistakes,' or oversights didn't affect the server and the players to the degree or magnitude they do here. As been said many times, the devs and staff knew well ahead of time that this is a different era, a different time and many of the players would be veterans who know everything there is to about EverQuest. Add the internet, voice communications and text messaging and it was quite obvious that the simplistic mechanics of EQ would get exploited by people at the first chance they got.

There was an opportunity to amend certain parts of the game /server to accommodate this, without ruining the 'classic,' experience and yet they did nothing.

In the end it just came down to picking and choosing what they wanted, and MQng was something they wanted. It doesn't even matter whether it's good or bad.

[Fael]

Seriously though. Yall should stop whining. Chardok is game breaking but MQ...

Cite some actual references. What is so damaging about a rogue mq for 30k. There is no bottle neck to the rogue epic, to the shaman epic, to the cleric epic (hearts sell for under 40k). That's about the only serious items that get mq'd.

The other big items like necro and sk epic would never get to the people that cry about not being able to get them. In fact, the casuals who can't make the one inny or ct raid per quarter that it might drop at would be royally screwed if you took away Mq and they happened to not be able to make it.

In short I don't see What is so same offensive about a MQ. Think of all wonderful times that you've been able to Mq things. If anything it is good for casual scum bags.

Dolic

[Oooruk]

Originally Posted by hammertime7795 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup shaman epic is one of the easiest for casuals to do. The tear and a couple group fights is all you really need to do.

I know this. But, that is an incredibly boring and lame way to get an "epic" item. I enjoy playing the game and doing quests rather than just powering forward for items. Like I said though, my playtime is real limited and I realize that there are a lot of end game things I won't be doing because of this. That's EQ though.

/shrug

If I decide to start playing on blue again I will probably end up lame ducking it and doing the same step over and over.

[Faiding]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short I don't see What is so same offensive about a MQ. Think of all wonderful times that you've been able to Mq things. If anything it is good for casual scum bags.

Dolic

Yeah, those casual scumbags. Not like those incredibly reasonable and logical people who play an emulated recreation of a game with a known outcome that they played 12+ years ago like it's their job.

[iruinedyourday]

Still no reason to be upset about mq for any reason. It's never a problem, it makes epics avail for casuals and as I said never a problem.