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Old 12-13-2014, 12:03 AM
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Is current FFXI that bad? Honestly asking, since I haven't played that in years! Also, I highly doubt Squeenix would be keen on a Emulated server. They pretty much drop the C&D on any non-licensed project like that. (Read: Chrono Trigger reboot)
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Old 12-13-2014, 02:56 AM
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Is current FFXI that bad? Honestly asking, since I haven't played that in years! Also, I highly doubt Squeenix would be keen on a Emulated server. They pretty much drop the C&D on any non-licensed project like that. (Read: Chrono Trigger reboot)
Yes, FFXI live is bad. They have like 20 jobs (classes), and only like 5 of them actually ever get invited to anything. Reroll or don't get invited. Because of this, there are tons of people who don't know how to play their fucking class. Abyssea killed that game.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:42 AM
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Yes, FFXI live is bad. They have like 20 jobs (classes), and only like 5 of them actually ever get invited to anything. Reroll or don't get invited. Because of this, there are tons of people who don't know how to play their fucking class. Abyssea killed that game.
You realize Classic FFXI was the exact same way right? Only a handful of classes were actually useful. I do agree Abyssea was terrible but the game itself was never that special. The dungeon design was absolutely pitiful as was most the class mechanics.

The main thing the game had going for it was it's semi turn based combat and combination attacks, depending on the patch.
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:54 AM
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You should start working on one yourself and see how far you get. We brought you classic eq; maybe you can do the same for ff.

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Old 12-13-2014, 04:04 AM
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You should start working on one yourself and see how far you get. We brought you classic eq; maybe you can do the same for ff.

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This, this right here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] i'll just enjoy classic EQ
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:12 PM
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You should start working on one yourself and see how far you get. We brought you classic eq; maybe you can do the same for ff.

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Couldn't you just, kinda, do it for him?
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Old 12-13-2014, 05:19 PM
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You should start working on one yourself and see how far you get. We brought you classic eq; maybe you can do the same for ff.

Get to work!
I have been lightly looking into this at the moment. I don't expect it to be an easy task either, but I have so much passion for this game. For as many things FFXI did right it would also did wrong. This game is such a flawed master piece in my eyes. I still think it had systems and mechanics that were ahead of its time and it's a shame that they have not been implemented in many more modern MMOs these days.

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Is current FFXI that bad? Honestly asking, since I haven't played that in years! Also, I highly doubt Squeenix would be keen on a Emulated server. They pretty much drop the C&D on any non-licensed project like that. (Read: Chrono Trigger reboot)
I tried to get back into FFXI last year and there was just so much stuff added to that game is was over whelming. Coupled with the fact that the game is heavily grind based I knew it would take forever to get any sort of footing. Exp groups had pretty much been replaced with mass raid exp groups and the servers were pretty empty. I kinda regret looking back at this game on live servers, I was sad as to what it became. I'm sure the game is still fun at the high end though.

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Yes, FFXI live is bad. They have like 20 jobs (classes), and only like 5 of them actually ever get invited to anything. Reroll or don't get invited. Because of this, there are tons of people who don't know how to play their fucking class. Abyssea killed that game.
This sounds like classic FFXI with the addition to how people play games today. Look at P99 where some people want to have the most efficient group setup no matter the level. I'm sure the other 15 classes are viable (yet the exp/raid encounter would be slower/harder) and you could get the job done, yet people would rather have their raid/group members just switch to the classes that would get the job done faster. (For those who don't know in FFXI you only had one character and you could switch to any class (job) you wanted).

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Never played it, but unless there's perma death, I can't imagine it's much more hardcore than classic EQ.
FFXI was very much on par with EQ when it came to difficulty. I like to think FFXI redefined EQ mechanics in a way that they were still fair and challenging. You still lost exp on death, (there was even a graphic for when you de-leveled and every could see it, graphic, sound) however you did not automatically release to your bind point once you died. You would have an hour to choose if you wanted to release or not (with an option menu). If you did release you lost that exp permanently, you would have no corpse to rez. If you wanted that exp back, you would have to sit there and wait for your White Mage friend/guildy to come and rez you, and if they took longer than an hour, time would expire and you would auto released you to your bind point. You would respawn with all your gear though, so no need for a corpse run, unless you were in an exp group, then you would have to run back to them.

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Jesus, all I can remember about the game was a full second delay on everything you would do from moving to fighting... It was bad.
This was easily the worst part about this game. The reason for the 1-2 second latency or at least this is what I remember/was told at the time, was the servers being based in Japan. I remember people saying if you played in Japan you did not have the 1-2 second delay. This was a huge problem for when named mobs would spawn because people based in Japan would see those mobs first (this was later fixed in a patch I remember). I've always wanted to play this game delay free.

I could talk for hours about how great and bad this game was. I love EQ just as much, but from a game play perspective I got to hand it to FFXI.


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The world needs a legit, uncorrupted WoW emulator without RMT, pay2win, silly XP rates, boxing, etc attached
People need RMT/Bonus EXP to play WoW? How bad are they at games?
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Old 12-13-2014, 05:27 PM
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People need RMT/Bonus EXP to play WoW? How bad are they at games?
RMT gets everywhere sadly, but you're right.... pretty bad at life I'd say [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-13-2014, 05:58 PM
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You should start working on one yourself and see how far you get. We brought you classic eq; maybe you can do the same for ff.

Get to work!
Is it just me or when I read this post I felt this aura that compelled me to do something
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Old 12-13-2014, 03:58 AM
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You realize Classic FFXI was the exact same way right? Only a handful of classes were actually useful. I do agree Abyssea was terrible but the game itself was never that special. The dungeon design was absolutely pitiful as was most the class mechanics.

The main thing the game had going for it was it's semi turn based combat and combination attacks, depending on the patch.
A class being not so good and but still getting invited is different than a class not being so good and being forced to reroll if you want to do anything at max level.
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