"wow raiding is takes alot more skill than eq" - SamwiseRed

[Bardalicious]

Mashing auto attack and CH hotkeys is challenging for some people...

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is saying "EQ just takes numbers" but nobody is mentioning organizing a raid force of ~70 people with ZERO voice chat and how difficult that is

Everyone is saying that because it's true.

a good main group can carry an entire raid in EQ 9 times out of 10..

Most difficult wow fights depend on everyone pulling their weight.

It took our guild 150 tries to kill anub-arak in TOGC 25m hm. Wouldn't you know that we did it on our second attempt in the 4th week. Our first attempt.. we got him to <200k hp with 50 attempts remaining and then one of the off tanks dropped.. we wiped instantly, but killed him the very next attempt. Never did get the '50 attempts remaining' achievement.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is people wouldn't still be attempting bosses in EQ after 150 tries because of the amount of time it takes to recover. people would log off because they arent having fun.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most EQ1 players play EQ1 because they don't have a reaction time to play PvP games, hence why Red99 is less popular and most blue players are not willing to try red because 'it has pvp in it'.

Uhh sorry there buddy but that's a pretty ignorant statement. You are pretty much blanketing that idea that EQ1 players that only PvE are poor gamers. Personally I don't like EQ1 PvP because of this statement you made:

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason why EQ is considered 'hard' is because people misappropriate 'hard' with 'unforgiving'.

EQ1 is 'unforgiving' enough where I don't need extra corpse retrievals as well as corpse looting. I don't have time for that nonsense. I also find EQ1 PvP to be incredibly unbalanced.

Really the only PvE game I pretty much play is EQ1. I prefer to play PvP games... but just because I don't like EQ1 PvP doesn't mean I'm too "slow" to compete.

[katrik]

Spent 4 hours learning heroics with a group of fresh 100 buddies. Shit's no joke, had a blast.

[FoxxHound]

DAoC

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how hard is it to tell me to autoattack and use their spells?

For classic raiding in EQ this may be the case, but you are just pointing out that you have never raided any of the best content in EQ, ie rathe

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is saying that because it's true.

a good main group can carry an entire raid in EQ 9 times out of 10..

Most difficult wow fights depend on everyone pulling their weight.

It took our guild 150 tries to kill anub-arak in TOGC 25m hm. Wouldn't you know that we did it on our second attempt in the 4th week. Our first attempt.. we got him to <200k hp with 50 attempts remaining and then one of the off tanks dropped.. we wiped instantly, but killed him the very next attempt. Never did get the '50 attempts remaining' achievement.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is people wouldn't still be attempting bosses in EQ after 150 tries because of the amount of time it takes to recover. people would log off because they arent having fun.

Got it

Organizing 70+ people = EZ PZ MR BREEZIE

Organizing 5 people = omfg guys how can we coordinate this is so hard how does language work

[Tankdan]

Tunare took like 8 months to kill

AoW was hardly even killed in his expansion.

Cataclysm Ragnaros took 300+ wipes.


Difficulty is how you define it.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Organizing 70+ people = EZ PZ MR BREEZIE

Organizing 70 people in Kunark is 1 line: PLZ PUT ON MR GEAR AND TURN ON AUTOATTACK

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Organizing 70 people in Kunark is 1 line: PLZ PUT ON MR GEAR AND TURN ON AUTOATTACK

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For classic raiding in EQ this may be the case, but you are just pointing out that you have never raided any of the best content in EQ, ie rathe