vp class c trap is set

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO is the last place I'd look for a lecture on integrity.

You are the last place any sensible person would look for an example of how to edify thyself.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

post the rogean thread saying 40% of bda was using showeq/mq

Why Rogean? Is his word truth?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care if you drove IB off the server and it was a TKO or if they left voluntarily, it doesn't affect me either way. The point I'm trying to make that the TMO version of history makes you into a conquering hero and the other version is IB being victimized by a colluding staff so they voluntarily left.

There's dozens of stories just like that and the TMO version is always some epic tale about good over evil, triumphing over competing guilds, pulling yourselves up by your bootstraps and winning p99 everquest, TMO victimized yet again by the staff with baseless allegations and unjust suspensions, etc etc

So basically you are jealous of our origin mythos? Chest wanted to be the server hero but TMO got there first.
Sorry bud. You seem to have forgotten the mass corruption the server used to have. Xzerion, Cyrius, Amelinda, your buddy Rais, Hobby. Najdorf was one of the cleaner GM's actually... maybe because he only lasted a few months.

You talk about the corruption and unfairness of the server now.... you seem to be forgetting the past. However, server is on the decline corruption wise for about 18ish months or so now, probably close to two years.

Still hardly compares to what happened in the past.

Look at facts.
Amelinda and IB leadership profited monetarily with their leaving to EQMac. That isn't representative of GM's running them off the server. That is representative of GM's doing underhanded thing for their mutual benefit. That era was represented by 2 GM's Raid(huge anti-tmo tryhard), and Amelinda(fucking split-personality attention-whore).
To say Amelinda was in TMO's camp is an exercise in stupidity. (or maybe you just trying to create your origin mythos when you save the server? right?)

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is his integrity in question?

Rogean's integrity? LOL since 2009 his integrity is in question. He would get wined and dined(meaning beer and casino trips) for favoritism for his rl pals who played in IB.

Early days many IB players were allowed to 2-box in exclusion from other guilds. He also got rid of the only GM who actually willingly exposed staff corruption from Cyrius, Hobby, and Xzerion. Rogean has roughly 0 integrity.

[Socratic]

The ignorance of Sirken is why I left this server, and until decisions by staff don't boil down to one-sided highly-edited fraps competitions, p99 will continue to erode. I hope they launch that rotation server honestly, so we can see if the two playstyles can stand on their own.

I remember when I quit, Sirken suspended TMO because IB trained themselves in VP. Right after the ruling he poofed, for weeks, unwilling to look at evidence, and unfortunately Sirken seems to be the end-all-be-all for these decisions so there was no one to appeal to. He did the same thing with a player dispute a few months prior, death touching some people because he didn't understand what was going on, only talking to one side, then hiding rather than discuss the issue.

It's really hard keeping players that care about the game when decisions are made by people that lack the fortitude to learn from their mistakes. I hope these decisions become public threads with both sides presenting evidence in the future, because right now Sirken is like a drunk parent ignorantly lashing out, unwilling to apologize when he's sobered up.

For most of the server this doesn't matter though. Eventually he will kill off the guild he chooses and things will calm down until competition rears its ugly head again.

[Socratic]

If raid-related petitions were public can you imagine the rnf? This stuff happens every week. From what I'm told there are retarded petitions constantly. The sheer stupidity of some of the claims would probably have the desired effect of limiting petitions if they were forced to be public, as the people making the claims would be shamed when they didn't hold water.

The only reason I can imagine not wanting raid disputes to be public is if you're trying to game the system and exploit the ignorance of Sirken.

[Servellious]

Yup make them public and watch all the retarded fail petitions decline

[nyclin]

answer to this shit is all pretty simple:

any raid-related petition is entirely 100% public, including any evidence presented and any discussions between involved parties and the GM staff

this reinforces the GM staff's position by allowing the discussions and evidence to be reviewed by the public, and also encourages the officers in the involved guilds to not be giant shitheads for the sake of pixels

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

answer to this shit is all pretty simple:

any raid-related petition is entirely 100% public, including any evidence presented and any discussions between involved parties and the GM staff

this reinforces the GM staff's position by allowing the discussions and evidence to be reviewed by the public, and also encourages the officers in the involved guilds to not be giant shitheads for the sake of pixels

I agree. Let's keep this alive, and hopefully, the staff will come to see it this way.

Something like this, would be extremely helpful.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Socratic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ignorance of Sirken is why I left this server, and words and words and words

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