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[Portasaurus]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they'll change the party platform once it becomes too out of touch on certain issues.

[Portasaurus]

^ if that's not winning in the long run, I don't know what is.

[Rararboker]

Normally I'd be worried, thinking of democrats running the country. But the republicans aren't much better and it is just a big scam to help people avoid making their own decisions on many of these issues. Much easier to just join a "political party" and adopt all of their views. Which is why I hope, in 20 years, both parties are retired. Maybe something good can finally come of it all. As it stands, in 20 years, at the rate we are going, America is going to be a shadow of what it used to be and/or still is (kind of) today.

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You people act like a person's politics don't change over the course of their life. As if incorporating experience and new knowledge into one's thoughts on the ideal way for government to be structured never happens. Maybe that doesn't happen for you, but that speaks more about you than anything else.

I think the saying goes, if you vote Democrat before 30 you have no heart. If you vote Democrat after 30 you have no brain.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think democrats don't partake in the looting?

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/...te=&cycle=2014

but I guess that democratic money came from burger flippers and other minimum wage workers in your mind. In reality, the corporate oligarchs are in both parties

Yea I know, but it's more about severity than presence or absence. The public option was killed by a corrupt fucking democrat after all.

I'm just surprised one of the most reviled legislatures in US history can not only get re-elected, but expand their hold over the government. That's what I am miffed about more than anything else. Read about the actual number of votes cast for republican members of congressmen compared to democrat ones. They rely a lot more on gerrymandering and voter suppression. Then again dems rely on immigrants so I'm not sure that's better. I live in a gerrymandered conservative district. I had the choice between two republican representatives.

This country needs political reform... badly

[Telin]

I favor constitutional amendments to further limit the federal government's power and return it to the states which can be done by 3/4ths of the states without the Feds. More state governments are changing and getting closer to this becoming a possibility, but are these newly-elected officials really believers of our constitution? Probably not.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Nitsude [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the saying goes, if you vote Democrat before 30 you have no heart. If you vote Democrat after 30 you have no brain.

I think you meant "if you vote Republican before 30 you have no heart". But yeah, both parties are an incomprehensible mess of inconsistent and often conflicting policy ideas, designed purely to divide and conquer the American people. I'd change that saying to "If you identify with either the D or R parties, you have no brain."

At least with the white house and congress split right now, they'll hopefully be able to do less damage.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it makes you feel any better I voted republican with the exception of Tom Wolf, whom I voted Democrat for.

Voted for Wolf and rest of Dem's. Lesser of 2 evils.

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you meant "if you vote Republican before 30 you have no heart"

Oops, yeah that's right.

[Daldaen]

George Washington was right:

However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

2-party system is bad and it should feel bad.