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Old 10-31-2014, 06:34 PM
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:14 PM
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If it's not a female elf then you're just a misogynist!!!
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:35 PM
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You've misunderstood. Gamergate began with a few women criticizing the game industry, but that's not what it's about now. What it's about now is the angry nerd reaction to to that criticism, where they think it's ok to make death and rape threats to anyone whose opinion they disagree with. That is what has gotten all the media attention, not some academic criticism of female representation in games.
Wishing death on people you consider retarded and stupid has always been commonplace on the internet.

Feminists got trolled.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:36 PM
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GamerGate is a perfect repository for the kind of misogyny demonstrated by the OP. That's all it is, really.

I say if it separates and provides an isolation chamber for misogynists that don't realize the objectification of women in video games is a real issue, then more power to it. I'd rather they be caught in their own idiotic feedback loop than attempt to spew their shit all over the rest of us.
The fact that you think I am misogynist is hilarious.

And I'll leave it at that.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:00 PM
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the objectification of women in video games is a real issue
Why is it an issue?

Objectification of women in real life is an issue, but why is it an issue in video games? Video games are somebody's artistic expression.

Is the glorification of Satan, murder, and blood/cum orgies in death metal songs an issue?

What about the extreme objectification of women in women's magazines, is that an issue? Should we force Cosmo and Vogue to stop airbrushing their anorexic models and focusing on "how to look sexy"?

These are all symptoms of widely accepted cultural values. It's okay to try and change those values as a broader social effort. It's not okay to go around whimsically policing and censoring whichever medium you feel deserves it. Women-centric media (certain magazines, reality TV, Dr. Oz, romantic comedies, The Bachelorette, Dance Moms, Kardashians, etc) handle women as bad or worse than masculine video games do, from image, values, and character-strength standpoints.

Anita is an opportunist, not a scholar. She's found something that is making her a lot of money and attention, and she has latched onto it like a leech.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:02 PM
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Why is it an issue?

Objectification of women in real life is an issue, but why is it an issue in video games? Video games are somebody's artistic expression.

Is the glorification of Satan, murder, and blood/cum orgies in death metal songs an issue?

What about the extreme objectification of women in women's magazines, is that an issue? Should we force Cosmo and Vogue to stop airbrushing their anorexic models and focusing on "how to look sexy"?

These are all symptoms of widely accepted cultural values. It's okay to try and change those values as a broader social effort. It's not okay to go around whimsically policing and censoring whichever medium you feel deserves it. Women-centric media (certain magazines, reality TV, Dr. Oz, romantic comedies, The Bachelorette, Dance Moms, Kardashians, etc) handle women as bad or worse than masculine video games do, from image, values, and character-strength standpoints.

Anita is an opportunist, not a scholar. She's found something that is making her a lot of money and attention, and she has latched onto it like a leech.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:18 PM
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Why is it an issue?

Objectification of women in real life is an issue, but why is it an issue in video games? Video games are somebody's artistic expression.

Is the glorification of Satan, murder, and blood/cum orgies in death metal songs an issue?

What about the extreme objectification of women in women's magazines, is that an issue? Should we force Cosmo and Vogue to stop airbrushing their anorexic models and focusing on "how to look sexy"?

These are all symptoms of widely accepted cultural values. It's okay to try and change those values as a broader social effort. It's not okay to go around whimsically policing and censoring whichever medium you feel deserves it. Women-centric media (certain magazines, reality TV, Dr. Oz, romantic comedies, The Bachelorette, Dance Moms, Kardashians, etc) handle women as bad or worse than masculine video games do, from image, values, and character-strength standpoints.

Anita is an opportunist, not a scholar. She's found something that is making her a lot of money and attention, and she has latched onto it like a leech.
that is fucking bullshit im sorry, let me answer your question... why is it an issue in video games?

Because it is an issue FOR HER so she talks about it.

you are not the sun and the stars, how you feel isnt how the world feels.

there are PLENTY of OTHER PEOPLE that take issue with the objectification of women in fashion magazines.

All women arnt the same, they can have interests in separate things.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:22 PM
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Why is it an issue?

Objectification of women in real life is an issue, but why is it an issue in video games? Video games are somebody's artistic expression.

Is the glorification of Satan, murder, and blood/cum orgies in death metal songs an issue?

What about the extreme objectification of women in women's magazines, is that an issue? Should we force Cosmo and Vogue to stop airbrushing their anorexic models and focusing on "how to look sexy"?

These are all symptoms of widely accepted cultural values. It's okay to try and change those values as a broader social effort. It's not okay to go around whimsically policing and censoring whichever medium you feel deserves it. Women-centric media (certain magazines, reality TV, Dr. Oz, romantic comedies, The Bachelorette, Dance Moms, Kardashians, etc) handle women as bad or worse than masculine video games do, from image, values, and character-strength standpoints.

Anita is an opportunist, not a scholar. She's found something that is making her a lot of money and attention, and she has latched onto it like a leech.


Fucked up thing is that in a year, 5 years, 10 years there is still going to be male dominated market with those AAA shooty murder simulators going strong. That is...if the market isnt crashed completely
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:26 PM
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Why is it an issue?

Objectification of women in real life is an issue, but why is it an issue in video games? Video games are somebody's artistic expression.

Right, but if you saw a video game where you lynch black people, or beat up faggots, would you really argue "it's just their artistic expression?"

Now don't get me wrong: historically video games have been singled out, beyond any other artistic medium, by the "won't someone please think of the children" crowd. Because they're a very new medium, and because they are consumed largely by "the younger generation", they've had to put up with a lot more scrutiny from "the older generation" than other art forms, and that's bullshit.

But that doesn't give the entire medium a free pass either.
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Old 10-31-2014, 08:28 PM
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Fucked up thing is that in a year, 5 years, 10 years there is still going to be male dominated market with those AAA shooty murder simulators going strong. That is...if the market isnt crashed completely
she doesnt have a problem with AAA shooty murder simulators... she has aproblem with them being stupid as fuck with shitty characters and writers that think gritty is a brothel with naked dead hookers everywhere.

I too have a problem with them being stupid as fuck and want them to be better.
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