Stop the Socking - Page 59

Amirite · #**581** 10-31-2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. You really should leave the discussion if you can't see what the GM's have said in raid discussion.

False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..

khanable · #**582** 10-31-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amirite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=27

You must be in Taken

Lazie · #**583** 10-31-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amirite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False. everything you say is false.

GMs haven't said anything, that was deru with another maybe post that is vague.

the players of the server come up with the terms and if everyone agrees they will make the changes. its only you that is holding it back.

FFA repop is workable. and stops 99% of everything that is the issue..

Uhm, NO it was SIRKEN and it wasn't a maybe. Again learn to read.

Amirite · #**584** 10-31-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhm, NO it was SIRKEN and it wasn't a maybe. Again learn to read.

False. You are so False.

Juryiel · #**585** 10-31-2014, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The GM's said it. We need something that is workable. Aside from that I would like a change that doesn't immediately limit guilds with smaller numbers. A repop can happen at any hour of the day. Fixing the current FFA spawns to make them more approachable for all guilds is the smarter way to approach it to get that result.

But this is a poor reason because I imagine they only said it because they think it's what class C wants. If every guild on the server agreed, they would do that I'm sure.

Forget what the GMs said for a second, and answer that question from Class C's own perspective rather than hiding behind Sirken. I'm sure your reasons are fine, but people want to know where you stand and why you stand there.

Buhbuh · #**586** 10-31-2014, 03:55 PM

Or if you guys don't want to play on a server where you, quite literally, have to be socially responsible for and toward other guild's to facilitate their fun, you can try out Red99 and not deal with any of that.

PM me, we'll talk business in TS.

I love you.

Ella`Ella · #**587** 10-31-2014, 03:56 PM

For a couple of reasons, and I'll keep it brief because I believe that the true Wall-of-Text hero here is Daldaen and I don't want to take a shot at his crown.

1) Removing FFA completely destroys the avenue in which Class-R CAN compete for mobs against Class-C if they wish. If they wish to abstain from the toxic shitshow that you believe co-mingling with Class-C causes, they can.

Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple incidents that have gone to GMs due to FFA situations - the SevGate FTE fuck by Taken and the ridiculous attempt of a petition against TMO by Taken most recently.

2) Why are we being asked to concede more mobs when we already did so (to a significant extent) during the original raid change agreement? We're not the ones unhappy with FFA and we're not asking for more mobs.

3) It really seems to me that the real issue here isn't being addressed and it's being covered up by bullshit. I think the real problem is that the rotations are getting longer and longer because more guilds are joining that rotation you've got going and Class-R mouths are hungry. In honestly, there doesn't need to be 13 Class-R guilds. Consider consolidating.

khanable · #**588** 10-31-2014, 03:56 PM

The reasons beyond what Sirken said are that C/R FFA repop takes a % away from C's pie

This isn't rocket surgery folks

They don't want to give up a %, and nor should they
R doesn't want to give up a %, and nor should they

Keep the %'s identical to how it is now and figure out a system, fuck

Ella`Ella · #**589** 10-31-2014, 03:57 PM

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Keep the %'s identical to how it is now and figure out a system, fuck

Amirite · #**590** 10-31-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple incidents that have gone to GMs due to FFA situations - the SevGate FTE fuck by Taken and the ridiculous attempt of a petition against TMO by Taken most recently.

what proof do you have that Taken did any of this? wheres the screenshots? wheres the logs? wheres the screenshots of the logs with fraps of the screenshots happening with the locs??

again.. TMO causes the issues and blames a Class R guild who is trying to be competitive. becouse they almost lost some % of the pie!

still no reason for no FFA repops. doesn't matter what sirken said a week ago before this was even really discussed.

give a reason why it wouldn't work out better for the server? smaller guilds dont get FFA mobs as it is, but they would have a chance at picking targets class C wont go for first at the last second decision