Stop the Socking

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

figured, even when the overlords of mages, coh and ducking mention the possibility of trying a race it doesnt matter

its all pitchforks and torches up in here

You just said that Taken will CoTH duck to rustle another guild. How is anyone supposed to take that? Do you not think that sort of behavior is detrimental?

Stellar of you to admit it, but it is still a problem.

[Ella`Ella]

You know, getting rid of CoTH ducking isn't the answer, it's addressing the problem that leads to coth ducking. We already know a tactic to replace coth ducking if that ever gets banned, which will just create a new problem. Focus on either making windows shorter or extending variance.

[Argh]

Variance being reduced won't happen. It's been poo pooed already.

There really isn't any reform, which can be easily regulated, that will render anything that remotely resembles racing.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There really isn't any reform, which can be easily regulated, that will render anything that remotely resembles racing.

except you know removing the FFA cycle and making repops an actual FFA scenario, but that could potentially shave mobs off the class C factory assembly line, can't have that

[Erati]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You just said that Taken will CoTH duck to rustle another guild. How is anyone supposed to take that? Do you not think that sort of behavior is detrimental?

Stellar of you to admit it, but it is still a problem.

no I did not say Taken will do that to rustle another guild.

Some of our MEMBERS who track enjoy doing it.

Taken as a guild, which I have stated many many times, have never once asked anyone to do it.

and it was started as a JOKE not a strat.

[Amirite]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think most people in this thread or that know me will tell you straight up I'm pretty open and truthful. There are other strategies and pulling methods that are even faster than the one I mentioned here. All those strategies can be curbed by implementing foot races and the few stipulations I mentioned.

right so TMO can keep a rez box on a "foot racer" closer to spawn of the mob, get FTE then say you ran the whole way? obviously with not needing to run fraps no one would have proof...even though we couldn't provide enough proof for TMO anyway possible other then being in the FTErs basement watching behind them with a video camera?

unless you specify every possible way to get around something in specific rules it will only go back to where we are now..

FFA sim repops again is less rules and petitions..less headaches and more fun.. (which is what we all want here and you have not said anything about that not being true.)

[Man0warr]

Removing coth ducking just makes the race a zoneline creeping, fastest SSD-having race.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, getting rid of CoTH ducking isn't the answer, it's addressing the problem that leads to coth ducking. We already know a tactic to replace coth ducking if that ever gets banned, which will just create a new problem. Focus on either making windows shorter or extending variance.

+1 I agree with Ella here.

I think the focus on COH and ducking, with fingers pointing directly at Taken is beyond absurd namely when we not only dont condone it, but support its removal.

How you 'remove it' is a little tricky bc I can only tell people what to do out there and everyone has some Dinacarls in their guild that just 'do their own thing' regardless if its something leadership wants to see happen.

We have broken zero rules tracking with our mages ( minus Sev gate but that was not a mage issue ).

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, getting rid of CoTH ducking isn't the answer, it's addressing the problem that leads to coth ducking. We already know a tactic to replace coth ducking if that ever gets banned, which will just create a new problem. Focus on either making windows shorter or extending variance.

Would love to see a removal or reduction of variance.

Considering any changes to C/R/FFA, variance, etc, are off the table as per staff, what we're left with is player rules of engagement.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Amirite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right so TMO can keep a rez box on a "foot racer" closer to spawn of the mob, get FTE then say you ran the whole way? obviously with not needing to run fraps no one would have proof...even though we couldn't provide enough proof for TMO anyway possible other then being in the FTErs basement watching behind them with a video camera?

unless you specify every possible way to get around something in specific rules it will only go back to where we are now..

FFA sim repops again is less rules and petitions..less headaches and more fun.. (which is what we all want here and you have not said anything about that not being true.)

I really would love to borrow your Tinfoil Hat. It seems impressive.