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Old 10-03-2014, 09:43 PM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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Yea I don't think sneak is supposed to be as effective as it is on this server.

I just tested this on live. Two things.

1. Sneak didn't help, the 2 assisted.
2. King should run straight through at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8eq...ature=youtu.be

I sneak, con the 2 to make sure their backs to me, both con indifferent. Reaver PH cons ready to attack since he is facing me. Throw a weapon, he charges me and the 2 on sides aggro.
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:29 PM
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Yea I don't think sneak is supposed to be as effective as it is on this server.

I just tested this on live. Two things.

1. Sneak didn't help, the 2 assisted.
2. King should run straight through at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8eq...ature=youtu.be

I sneak, con the 2 to make sure their backs to me, both con indifferent. Reaver PH cons ready to attack since he is facing me. Throw a weapon, he charges me and the 2 on sides aggro.
Things may have changed, this post from 2000

http://www.monkly-business.net/forum...ead.php?t=8889

clearly describes the tactic being described in the OP video

4) Using Thrown Weapons and Sneak to split.

With the changes to Sneak (no longer dropping when you use a thrown weapon ) another use has come up! In order for this to work, you must be using a ranged weapon with a ranger greater then the static aggro of the mob ( ie method # 3 listed above): engage sneak, throw, insta split. Personally I'm using summoned suriken for this, and I haven't had to use FD on a split since I got back into EQ. This includes splitting spawns where the mobs are literally on top of each other, although some times I have hit the mob i didn't have targeted, I have never aggro'ed the other.

I can't comment on the King's pathing once agro'ed, but I do note its different to other emu's. Perhaps intentionally changed - no idea.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:12 AM
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It means he could have kept his mouth shut & not shared his awesome game info & people wouldn't call him a jerk.

of course all the people attacking him are probably people who do this and are just upset that hes releasing the strat to the people. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I thought what he showed in the video was common knowledge...Everyone has been pulling king this way for months.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yea I don't think sneak is supposed to be as effective as it is on this server.

I just tested this on live. Two things.

1. Sneak didn't help, the 2 assisted.
2. King should run straight through at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8eq...ature=youtu.be

I sneak, con the 2 to make sure their backs to me, both con indifferent. Reaver PH cons ready to attack since he is facing me. Throw a weapon, he charges me and the 2 on sides aggro.
1. Im with you, sneak should be nerfed, lets let the monk shit for good monks.

2. I see that you are testing on live, how impressed you seem with the video after all that trolling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:30 AM
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Sneak should break when you attack/throw something.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:40 AM
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No it shouldn't.
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Old 10-04-2014, 02:06 AM
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No it shouldn't.
Cecily is correct, the Monk post from 2000 alludes to this as well. Pre-Kunark or mid-Kunark sneak broke it. But that was changed, and throwing shouldn't break sneak.

And I dunno what trolling I did, I didn't think this was classic. So I went to investigate on that end. And I think pathing in EQ is a pretty static thing (in that they didn't change it too much). If anything they improved it to be more logical. But as that live video shows, he should charge you directly, not take a pleasant 15 second detour.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:04 AM
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Cecily is correct, the Monk post from 2000 alludes to this as well. Pre-Kunark or mid-Kunark sneak broke it. But that was changed, and throwing shouldn't break sneak.

And I dunno what trolling I did, I didn't think this was classic. So I went to investigate on that end. And I think pathing in EQ is a pretty static thing (in that they didn't change it too much). If anything they improved it to be more logical. But as that live video shows, he should charge you directly, not take a pleasant 15 second detour.
Prolly the pathing you show on your video wokld make it easier even
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:18 AM
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Maybe, Maybe not.

Dunno how much of the jail you would get through with sneak/invis on when he is right on your tail.

Though if you can, thats less worry about the pathing myconids back there.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:11 AM
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That is, i can tell you that ive did it without sow or jboots too, and with mob sowed, so can be done, you just need to be ware of some other things(doors etc)
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