religion

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely. I agree.

I agree as well. It is important to make a distinction between faith and belief though. I can have faith that the Cubs will win the world series just as you can have faith that a God exists. Belief requires some tangible evidence, though. Faith requires none.

[Gaffin 7.0]

u r all faggots

[Neyphlite]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u r all faggots

Do you believe we are all faggots or do you have faith in the thought that we are faggots? We need to know where you stand on this important piece of information.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree as well. It is important to make a distinction between faith and belief though. I can have faith that the Cubs will win the world series just as you can have faith that a God exists. Belief requires some tangible evidence, though. Faith requires none.

Faith has more than one definition.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faith has more than one definition.

Many words have multiple definitions. Words arent a sum of all their definitions simultaneously. Words are defined by the context in which they are used.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many words have multiple definitions. Words arent a sum of all their definitions simultaneously. Words are defined by the context in which they are used.

Exactly my point. You keep assigning one meaning to the word faith.

[Gaffin 7.0]

i grew up in nothing but religion for 15 years before moving out

FUCK IT all i dont give a shit life is short

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly my point. You keep assigning one meaning to the word faith.

I assign the value based on the context it is used in. He isnt talking about these definitions:

A specific system of religious beliefs: the Jewish faith.

Was he referring to a religious belief system? No

(Theology) Christianity trust in God and in his actions and promises

Was he referring his trust in God, his actions, or promises? No

(Theology) a conviction of the truth of certain doctrines of religion, esp when this is not based on reason

Was he referring to a doctrine of religion? No

Complete confidence or trust in a person, remedy, etc

Was he referring to complete confidence in a person, remedy, etc? No, he stated he "thought" these things not that he was 100% certain of them

Any set of firmly held principles or beliefs

Was he referring to a set of firmly held principles? No, he stated, "Errr im not acting like I know something at all"

Allegiance or loyalty, as to a person or cause (esp in the phrases keep faith, break faith)

How about this one? Nope.

Bad faith insincerity or dishonesty

This definition? Nope

Good faith honesty or sincerity, as of intention in business (esp in the phrase in good faith)

Not this one either. So what does that leave us...

1. strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assign the value based on the context it is used in. He isnt talking about these definitions:

A specific system of religious beliefs: the Jewish faith.

Was he referring to a religious belief system? No

(Theology) Christianity trust in God and in his actions and promises

Was he referring his trust in God, his actions, or promises? No

(Theology) a conviction of the truth of certain doctrines of religion, esp when this is not based on reason

Was he referring to a doctrine of religion? No

Complete confidence or trust in a person, remedy, etc

Was he referring to complete confidence in a person, remedy, etc? No, he stated he "thought" these things not that he was 100% certain of them

Any set of firmly held principles or beliefs

Was he referring to a set of firmly held principles? No, he stated, "Errr im not acting like I know something at all"

Allegiance or loyalty, as to a person or cause (esp in the phrases keep faith, break faith)

How about this one? Nope.

Bad faith insincerity or dishonesty

This definition? Nope

Good faith honesty or sincerity, as of intention in business (esp in the phrase in good faith)

Not this one either. So what does that leave us...

1. strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence.

I would also like to point out that no where in any of these definitions is a requirement for evidence.

[Neyphlite]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assign the value based on the context it is used in. He isnt talking about these definitions:

A specific system of religious beliefs: the Jewish faith.

Was he referring to a religious belief system? No

(Theology) Christianity trust in God and in his actions and promises

Was he referring his trust in God, his actions, or promises? No

(Theology) a conviction of the truth of certain doctrines of religion, esp when this is not based on reason

Was he referring to a doctrine of religion? No

Complete confidence or trust in a person, remedy, etc

Was he referring to complete confidence in a person, remedy, etc? No, he stated he "thought" these things not that he was 100% certain of them

Any set of firmly held principles or beliefs

Was he referring to a set of firmly held principles? No, he stated, "Errr im not acting like I know something at all"

Allegiance or loyalty, as to a person or cause (esp in the phrases keep faith, break faith)

How about this one? Nope.

Bad faith insincerity or dishonesty

This definition? Nope

Good faith honesty or sincerity, as of intention in business (esp in the phrase in good faith)

Not this one either. So what does that leave us...

1. strong or unshakeable belief in something, esp without proof or evidence.

Im glad that you changed the wording on my sentence and then found a definition of a word I did not use to support doing it. I didn't say I had faith in a higher power I said I believe in higher powers and it is not up to you what I can believe in. If I wanted to believe in magic leprechauns and pots of gold at the end of rainbows it is not up to you to tell me I cant. For the record:

Verb phrases
6.
believe in, a.to be persuaded of the truth or existence of:
"to believe in Zoroastrianism; to believe in ghosts."