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Old 09-20-2014, 11:53 PM
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Among friends I'm happy to discuss religion or The Big Questions. It's the random strangers, Jehova's Witnesses and the like that I'm referring to when I ask that it be kept to oneself. I don't need to hear some idiot yelling about how god has a plan for me on my way to work, and I sure as hell don't want one on my doorstep asking to be invited in so he can read me some passages from Genesis.
How else do you expect a religion to spread their word? Let me better ask you, if you were so happy, and had some kind of care in the world, wouldn't you want others to live as happy as you, and not just sit in this knowledge in hopes that people will find you? Like I said, you have all the right in the world to deny talking to someone about it or not invite them into your house, but you imply these people force their way into your home and feed this knowledge down your throat.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:00 AM
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Among friends I'm happy to discuss religion or The Big Questions. It's the random strangers, Jehova's Witnesses and the like that I'm referring to when I ask that it be kept to oneself. I don't need to hear some idiot yelling about how god has a plan for me on my way to work, and I sure as hell don't want one on my doorstep asking to be invited in so he can read me some passages from Genesis.
I've always found that open conversation, even with strangers, even with people I completely disagree with is often the most enlightening. We most likely know how our friends and family feel about the big questions, but conversation with someone willing to have honest and respectful interchange has a way of challenging your belief system in a unique way. And I like to give my worldview a good honest challenge now and then.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:03 AM
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Well, I guess I'll just ask the dear readers of P99 RnF if I've made that implication. I don't think I have.

I am saying though that I believe religion is a universally toxifying force, a poison for the masses that invariably does more harm than good. And it is in my best interest to dissuade as many people as I can away from it, so that they won't be caught in this deintellectualizing thought-trap. I think it's wholly unhealthy for the mind, and can only lead to intellectual stagnation and degeneration. These are my views and I'll speak them as loudly and as clearly as I damn well please.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:05 AM
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Well, I guess I'll just ask the dear readers of P99 RnF if I've made that implication. I don't think I have.

I am saying though that I believe religion is a universally toxifying force, a poison for the masses that invariably does more harm than good. And it is in my best interest to dissuade as many people as I can away from it, so that they won't be caught in this deintellectualizing thought-trap. I think it's wholly unhealthy for the mind, and can only lead to intellectual stagnation and degeneration. These are my views and I'll speak them as loudly and as clearly as I damn well please.
Preach the word brother.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:06 AM
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I've always found that open conversation, even with strangers, even with people I completely disagree with is often the most enlightening. We most likely know how our friends and family feel about the big questions, but conversation with someone willing to have honest and respectful interchange has a way of challenging your belief system in a unique way. And I like to give my worldview a good honest challenge now and then.
I agree. One of my former work mates is atheist and feels poorly about religion. We had very engaging conversations, with the agreement that no matter what was said we wouldn't be offended. We enjoyed the open atmosphere that created, and he was shocked to learn many of our viewpoints on religion were not dissimilar.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:07 AM
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i'm a gay wiener who argues about religion on the internet

it's dumb
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:07 AM
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I've always found that open conversation, even with strangers, even with people I completely disagree with is often the most enlightening. We most likely know how our friends and family feel about the big questions, but conversation with someone willing to have honest and respectful interchange has a way of challenging your belief system in a unique way. And I like to give my worldview a good honest challenge now and then.
Total agreement here, and I do take this opportunity when it seems appropriate.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:08 AM
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Well, I guess I'll just ask the dear readers of P99 RnF if I've made that implication. I don't think I have.

I am saying though that I believe religion is a universally toxifying force, a poison for the masses that invariably does more harm than good. And it is in my best interest to dissuade as many people as I can away from it, so that they won't be caught in this deintellectualizing thought-trap. I think it's wholly unhealthy for the mind, and can only lead to intellectual stagnation and degeneration. These are my views and I'll speak them as loudly and as clearly as I damn well please.
I agree as a whole religion has failed mankind with lies and hypocrisy.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:09 AM
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I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
I don't know, I'm pretty ignorant, but it seemed to be implied here.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:09 AM
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i'm a gay wiener who argues about religion on the internet

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