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Old 09-18-2014, 05:17 PM
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Actually it does in a thread like this. The burden of proof is on you.
Again, we're not making any grandiose claims about the universe. There is nothing for me to prove, unless you don't actually believe I'm being honest about my own unbelief, and if that's the case then go right ahead. I'll go on living in a free, secular society where fortunately I have the right to tell everyone who tries to win me as a convert to fuck off and stay out of our public schools.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:27 PM
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Again, we're not making any grandiose claims about the universe. There is nothing for me to prove, unless you don't actually believe I'm being honest about my own unbelief, and if that's the case then go right ahead. I'll go on living in a free, secular society where fortunately I have the right to tell everyone who tries to win me as a convert to fuck off and stay out of our public schools.
Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:35 PM
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Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.
You keep implying belief on others like it is supposed to mean something. You pretend to be skeptical while clinging to outrageous explanations of the universe.

It's not an issue of challenging a belief system, it's the issue that you keep ignoring the only evidence available. If you can prove the fossil record is bullshit than do it! Make millions of dollars in the process and show all of those smug science types up. Just provide the evidence.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:35 PM
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Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.
Except we have tons of observable evidence that infers the big bang theory is factually correct. Creationist just point to their holy book. Care to explain cosmic background radiation? Did god create it to fool us?
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:36 PM
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Except we have tons of observable evidence that infers the big bang theory is factually correct. Creationist just point to their holy book. Care to explain cosmic background radiation? Did god create it to fool us?
Oh you do? Where.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:46 PM
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Oh you do? Where.
It takes about 2 seconds to do a google search. I am not going to post the THOUSANDS of scientific papers and studies that back it up. No one is hiding the data you seek.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:38 PM
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the big bang theory is factually correct
Those are just actors dude...
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:38 PM
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Except we have tons of observable evidence that infers the big bang theory is factually correct. Creationist just point to their holy book. Care to explain cosmic background radiation? Did god create it to fool us?
What created the Matter and Energy of The Big Bang

Something cannot come from Nothing

Matter cannot be created or destroyed right?
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:48 PM
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What created the Matter and Energy of The Big Bang

Something cannot come from Nothing

Matter cannot be created or destroyed right?
How about you quit moving the goal posts and answer my questions first. Then I will gladly explain where the energy/matter came from.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:50 PM
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How about you quit moving the goal posts and answer my questions first. Then I will gladly explain where the energy/matter came from.
Huh?

Nobody is moving any goal posts

Feel free to explain how Something can come from Nothing
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