Clothesing Threads

[Argh]

Lets keep this thread focused on threads please.

[arsenalpow]

My issue with your handling of the Naggy situation is three fold.

1) Sirken said the issue was done and over. A mans word is supposed to mean something. Just because Unbrella has a micro dick doesn't mean he should be able to harangue you enough to raise the issue from the dead after the case was closed.

2) You show no respect whatsoever. I actively dislike you and I used to actively dislike Sirken but we've buried that hatchet. We had a long talk and ironed out some issues. You still seem to have a very big hard on for BDA. You can say otherwise but ball don't lie. You kept focusing on BDA in regards to the Sev situation unnecessarily when the real issue as it's been said 100x is someone that didn't have FTE killed the dragon. It's inconsequential as to why other people were on the hate list. They needed to get off the list and wait for the reset.

3) BDA is suspended for Class R Naggy for helping to kill a FFA Naggy. Don't cross the streams. TMO blatantly trains BDA in Fear. It was signed off by Unbrella a fucking guild leader. We have 1080p fraps of the encounter and the result is a slap on the wrist. BDA kills 20% of Naggy and now we're out a class R Naggy which puts our next encounter something like 4 months away. I feel like BDA has been singled out numerous times for whatever reason. The first suspension with Trak under completely murky rules, then this Naggy, and now singling us out for Sev when we did nothing wrong.

I want, just like everyone wants, clear and consistent rulings using precedence as a guide. I want a logical thought process and fair rulings across the board.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My issue with your handling of the Naggy situation is three fold.

Couldn't tell if this was a clothing pun or not. If so, touche.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't tell if this was a clothing pun or not. If so, touche.

Nailed it

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My issue with your handling of the Naggy situation is three fold.

1) Sirken said the issue was done and over. A mans word is supposed to mean something. Just because Unbrella has a micro dick doesn't mean he should be able to harangue you enough to raise the issue from the dead after the case was closed.

2) You show no respect whatsoever. I actively dislike you and I used to actively dislike Sirken but we've buried that hatchet. We had a long talk and ironed out some issues. You still seem to have a very big hard on for BDA. You can say otherwise but ball don't lie. You kept focusing on BDA in regards to the Sev situation unnecessarily when the real issue as it's been said 100x is someone that didn't have FTE killed the dragon. It's inconsequential as to why other people were on the hate list. They needed to get off the list and wait for the reset.

3) BDA is suspended for Class R Naggy for helping to kill a FFA Naggy. Don't cross the streams. TMO blatantly trains BDA in Fear. It was signed off by Unbrella a fucking guild leader. We have 1080p fraps of the encounter and the result is a slap on the wrist. BDA kills 20% of Naggy and now we're out a class R Naggy which puts our next encounter something like 4 months away. I feel like BDA has been singled out numerous times for whatever reason. The first suspension with Trak under completely murky rules, then this Naggy, and now singling us out for Sev when we did nothing wrong.

I want, just like everyone wants, clear and consistent rulings using precedence as a guide. I want a logical thought process and fair rulings across the board.

You're right. I show no respect to this raid community by coming here and explaining the reasoning behind our decisions. I'll stop making that mistake from here on out.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right. I show no respect to this raid community by coming here and explaining the reasoning behind our decisions. I'll stop making that mistake from here on out.

Look I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation with you. You know that's not what I said. It's not easy to be in a position of power, to have decisions picked apart, but that's the burden of leadership.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation with you. You know that's not what I said. It's not easy to be in a position of power, to have decisions picked apart, but that's the burden of leadership.

I'm the only GM dumb enough to come here and explain our position on things. It wears on me, and I'm tired of it - even when we make the right call we get hammered. That's my own fault for putting myself here in front of the community.

We made our decision, I explained our reasoning - which I still stand behind, and won't continue to argue over - and that's where I'm going to leave it from now on.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm the only GM dumb enough to come here and explain our position on things. It wears on me, and I'm tired of it - even when we make the right call we get hammered. That's my own fault for putting myself here in front of the community.

We made our decision, I explained our reasoning - which I still stand behind, and won't continue to argue over - and that's where I'm going to leave it from now on.

Separate yourself from the decision man. This isn't an attack on you. You can't make everyone happy all the time but this wasn't the right call. I'm not in it for a pound of flesh, Taken skating doesn't bother me, but the logic behind the decision doesn't add up for me, nor does it add up for other people.

FTE is paramount. That's been the commandment. It's completely irrelevant that anyone else was on the aggro list while Taken downed the mob. That has NEVER been a point of debate before and we've had plenty of shitshow FFA encounters with 5+ guilds on the aggro list. Hell, every single Noble cycle has as many guilds on the encounter list as are present for the fight. Using that justification for your decision is causing strife because that justification has NEVER been used before. Yes, the encounter was a shitshow. It always is, but unless BDA or TMO or AG were using that aggro to delay someone eleses attempt on Sev or kiting him around the zone then it's irrelevant.

[Rais]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm the only GM dumb enough to come here and explain our position on things. It wears on me, and I'm tired of it .

You're not that much of an asshole. I warned you from day one about it!