Taken - Sev - Page 23

Lanuven · #**221** 08-26-2014, 04:55 PM

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Fearstalker's got this new thing called a "real life"... y'all should look into it.

The question was more directed at the way he lead the guild compared to the way its being ran now. He wasn't scared to cut throats when it was time. This is Catherin's second offense to the rules with a slap on the wrist?

Also, your spending your time on the forums posting in RnF...shouldn't you take your own advice? Just saying..kind of a dumbass comment to make considering your spending your time watching forums for drama if you aren't currently playing.

HeallunRumblebelly · #**222** 08-26-2014, 05:25 PM

Even with turrble rulings , I miss p99. Are we just done with rules Nd precedent now? Can we stop trying to explain mechanics and rules and just start with a list of dicks that need to be sucked so things can go our way?

dustysr06 · #**223** 08-26-2014, 06:34 PM

I think eratani is to blame for all of this, should send him massive amounts of hate tells in game..

Or you know, u could come play red, where fte doesnt matter and the players can exact their own revenge and due justice! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael · #**224** 08-26-2014, 06:49 PM

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I still think the best Analogy to this situation is the BDA Suspension for Peeling off what BDA thought was a Stall without allowing the mob (CT? Draco? I don't remember) to reset.

BDA was rightfully suspended and the GM's arguement was that, even if it was a stall, BDA wasn't allowed to make that call, and should never kill anything without an FTE Message. So the Illegal Pull by a tracker doesn't matter. The kill without an FTE Shout should mean a suspension.

Draco, but I guess that part of it doesn't really matter. The lack of consistency in the rulings is pretty appalling though.

....Did you guys forget that BDA didn't get suspended for this, but instead had their loots deleted...?

I don't remember there being a clarion call to suspend BDA after that encounter. In fact, BDA argued hard that they shouldn't have their loot deleted at all.

But there was definitely not a suspension. We let BDA off with a warning.

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arsenalpow · #**225** 08-26-2014, 06:54 PM

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....Did you guys forget that BDA didn't get suspended for this, but instead had their loots deleted...?

I don't remember there being a clarion call to suspend BDA after that encounter. In fact, BDA argued hard that they shouldn't have their loot deleted at all.

But there was definitely not a suspension. We let BDA off with a warning.

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but what the naggy situation with bda/taken/tmo, or fay with taken/ib, or draco with ib/tmo, or fay with taken/bda ?

Derubael · #**226** 08-26-2014, 06:54 PM

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Also Derubel saying he doesn't know how those people got on the hate list...That is bad. It happened because Theya kept aggro and set an AE off on top of pet classes that were grouped with bards....

"that is bad"

I love how you all think we don't understand how aggro mechanics work. But no, not all of these people were on the encounter list because Theya set an AE off on top of eveyrone. If that were the case, their aggro delay timers would have the same delay. Instead, they are staggered, and not in the appropriate interval for dragon fear. This indicates that they did something to get on the encounter log - sent in a pet, threw a jav, etc - something that we can actually see on one of the fraps (someone throwing a Jav after the AG FTE).

Don't come out and try to imply we don't know what we're doing when half the people posting in this thread don't even know how to read an encounter log, let alone ascertain what happened in a cluster fuck like this.

Edit: Should also be mentioned that the pet's didn't add people to the hatelist in all cases either - some of the classes added are *not* pet classes.

Also, dragon fear does not add you to a mobs hatelist all by itself. You need to do something to pick up aggro. Neither do AE breath attacks.

Locust · #**227** 08-26-2014, 06:57 PM

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....Did you guys forget that BDA didn't get suspended for this, but instead had their loots deleted...?

I don't remember there being a clarion call to suspend BDA after that encounter. In fact, BDA argued hard that they shouldn't have their loot deleted at all.

But there was definitely not a suspension. We let BDA off with a warning.

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this never happened. Supremacy (the bard, in FE) stalled draco as the only member of his guild until reinforcements arrived. BDA tried to peel unsuccessfully. we never killed it or received loot.

we were told that had we killed draco we would have eaten a suspension, and that we would be let off with a warning for raid interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEG4pHUegHw

Derubael · #**228** 08-26-2014, 07:13 PM

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this never happened. Supremacy (the bard, in FE) stalled draco as the only member of his guild until reinforcements arrived. BDA tried to peel unsuccessfully. we never killed it or received loot.

we were told that had we killed draco we would have eaten a suspension, and that we would be let off with a warning for raid interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEG4pHUegHw

Oh sorry, you're right - BDA peeled, FE took it back, and BDA got a warning over it. Regardless, if you want to draw parallels, BDA didn't get suspended for that encounter