Taken - Sev

[Herp]

Originally Posted by Lisset [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What amazes me is how Deru and Sirken are focusing on the initial engagement and saying everyone screwed up and how they could ding everyone, but that ignore one major point: Taken made a conscious effort to PULL and KILL a dragon that they didn't have FTE for.

THAT is the only real issue here. And by so doing, they denied every other guild even an opportunity to kill the dragon the right way. Oh they say that they petitioned for a ruling but as has been said before, the ONLY thing to do was NOT engage and wait for FTE. But no, they made a conscious decision to deny anyone else even the opportunity to do it the right way.

This is my question/concern as well, in which GMs ignored completely. You don't kill a boss unless it is your unquestionable FTE. Other guilds have done hard time and paid the price for this. I'll end it at that.

[Troubled]

Is the word tranny an insult or something?

[Culkasi]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We could not care less about this Sev tbh. But, if this incident stops the coth sock on FFA spawns then it's by far the most valuable Sev that's ever spawned imo.

YES!

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the word tranny an insult or something?

yes

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[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes

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Lol gdi Trouble

[Swish]

Originally Posted by dankzilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how Catherin calls for a stop to CotH race on mobs when she was the one who escalated the need for all guilds to do it in the first place.

I thought Catherin ate a ban for autofire? Shit's all wrong if she's still MQ'ing epics that way.

[arsenalpow]

TMO has draco FTE. IB kills it. IB suspended.
Taken has Nagafen FTE. Taken kills it with BDA assisting on the last 10%. BDA suspended.
AG has Sev FTE. Taken kills it. No punishments.

[Scoresby]

Quoted from Catherine on Raid Discussion...

"Going to have to suspend everyone, so what exactly is there to negotiate... Who gets the longest suspension?

Everyone but Taken, Ateam, and... Omni? were sitting directly on the spawn.

Everyone but Ateam inappropriately engages the dragon

Taken kills the Dragon."

So at what point in the multi-hour poopsock did you realize multiple people were parked on the dragon's spawn and likely to cause a shitstorm when it showed up. Why not bring up a concern about this ahead of time since you obviously know what's up?

Also, there's a huge difference in other "individuals" tagging a mob that has been aggro'd in aforementioned shitstorm, and leading your entire guild to willfully kill it. Especially with the entire zone pointing out you didn't have FTE!

Keep riding that high horse though.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO has draco FTE. IB kills it. IB suspended.
Taken has Nagafen FTE. Taken kills it with BDA assisting on the last 10%. BDA suspended.
AG has Sev FTE. Taken kills it. No punishments.

Well...AG's FTE wasn't legitimate, so that might have some affect on this. However, Taken did not let the mob reset. Shrug.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well...AG's FTE wasn't legitimate, so that might have some affect on this. However, Taken did not let the mob reset. Shrug.

The rule is if it isn't your FTE then you don't touch the mob. There's no caveats, there's no special circumstances governing illegal FTEs. The mob must reset. Period.