Confused by mana per wisdom

[Zaela]

Most of the oddity probably comes down to rounding.

Your values look about right coming out of the formula EQEmu has for pre-SoF clients:

if((( Wis - 199 ) / 2) > 0)
	MindLesserFactor = ( Wis - 199 ) / 2;
else
	MindLesserFactor = 0;

MindFactor = Wis - MindLesserFactor;

if(Wis > 100)
	max_m = (((5 * (MindFactor + 20)) / 2) * 3 * GetLevel() / 40);
else
	max_m = (((5 * (MindFactor + 200)) / 2) * 3 * GetLevel() / 100);

All the variables in there are integers, meaning decimals are truncated after each division operation. With that in mind, it matches up pretty well.

Comes down to about 10 (flip flops between 9 and 11?) mana per wis pre-200 at 60. After 200, it's not that you get half mana per wis so much as that every second point of wis (the odds) doesn't count. Which would explain how +3 wis can look like very little.

All that's assuming the devs haven't mucked with the clientside calculations, though.

[bluejam]

Originally Posted by Zaela [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of the oddity probably comes down to rounding.

that's what I thought at first. I figured adding as much WIS as possible before I run out of slots/items, then dividing the gained mana by the total WIS would give me a good approximate, but it doesn't work either.

the formula in that last link isn't 100% accurate either. I have 3270 mana ingame, tho I only get 3256 using your little calculator.

[Zaela]

Originally Posted by bluejam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the formula in that last link isn't 100% accurate either. I have 3270 mana ingame, tho I only get 3256 using your little calculator.

Makes me think it's off by 1 (effective) wis. Maybe it's the evens starting from 202 that don't count rather than odds from 201? Changed the calculator to that but who knows.

Close enough that it's almost certainly the right formula in general, though. The amount from 1 extra point of wis varies more than I thought. Assuming the formula is right, at level 60:

From 1 to 100: oscillates between 3 and 6 mana for each point of wis. Average: 4.5

From 101 to 200: proceeds in a pattern of 9, 13, 9, 14, repeat. Average for this portion: 11.25

From 201 to 255, same as 101 to 200, just staggered out to 9, 0, 13, 0, 9, 0, 14, 0, repeat. Average: ~5.73 (?)

Overall average from 1 to 255 would be around 7.41, but it would be silly to look at it that way when it's clearly stratified.

[Ishio]

[QUOTE=Zaela;1580147]Most of the oddity probably comes down to rounding.

Your values look about right coming out of the formula EQEmu has for pre-SoF clients:

if((( Wis - 199 ) / 2) > 0)
	MindLesserFactor = ( Wis - 199 ) / 2;
else
	MindLesserFactor = 0;

MindFactor = Wis - MindLesserFactor;

if(Wis > 100)
	max_m = (((5 * (MindFactor + 20)) / 2) * 3 * GetLevel() / 40);
else
	max_m = (((5 * (MindFactor + 200)) / 2) * 3 * GetLevel() / 100);

So if I read this right, MindLessFactor is 0 then taken that is Wisdom, say 150 - 199 which is technically -49 *unaware in coding if the computer drops the -* then divides by 2? thus being 24.5.

Taking that into effect, Wisdom is AGAIN being subtracted by MindLessFactor, and from there on, it's dependent on your level, in which anything 41+ means you get more mana up to 200? Or is that you get 200 mana more. As that's the org MinLessFactor, 24.5 + 200, 224.5 / 2 = 112.25 * 5 = 562.5 then that * 3 = 1687.5 times the level, say 45, then divided by 100. 759.375 mana total from your wisdom amount?